Comment submitted on yesterday's article: "This woman obviously never worked with infertile adults. I myself felt suicidal over infertility, and I just happen to be a lesbian with Pcos."
Ehrensaft can't point to any data that the fast-increasing population of sterilized tween/young teen trans kids won't regret--because there isn't any such data. This is all too new.
The commenter mentions she will "look into" the satanic abuse controversy later. Dr. Ehrensaft was involved in evaluating kids allegedly subjected to satanic abuse at a San Francisco preschool. She wrote an article about it in 1992. ia801408.us.archive.org/35/items/ehren…
Another commenter weighs in about the pain of infertility. Is it ethical for Ehrensaft to hand-wave away despair experienced by people who are infertile, as a justification for sterilizing tweens/teens? Where is her evidence? What experience does she have with infertile people?
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Of all the supposed "gotchas" leveled at Jesse Singal for the sin of his 2017 Atlantic article, one of the dumbest is that there was something nefarious about interviewing parents who'd posted on 4thWaveNow...which was the ONLY place parents of desisters had a voice in 2015-17.
There was literally nowhere else to find that particular group of people back then. It's pathetic (and defamatory) how these people keep flogging the dead horse that 4thWaveNow is "anti-trans" or "a hate group." For some reason, they won't admit the obvious:
We provide a platform for not just parents, but researchers, clinicians, desisters/detransitioners, & others who critically examine the upsurge (particularly) in girls & young women wanting to medically transition in the last 5-10 years. The "hate" libel is just pure projection.
Before you say any of this is bizarre or outrageous, consider that this is now the norm, perpetuated by many pediatric clinicians and organizations like Gender Spectrum.
When it comes to medical transition of kids/young teens, it's patently obvious there's an irreconcilable conflict between the "T" & the "LGB." A child treated w/blockers/hormones can't have the "decisive" sexual experiences necessary to realize their sexual orientation.
To know this about young LG youth is not "transphobic." An adult allowed to go through puberty & have some sexual experiences/awareness has the wherewithal to give informed consent to medical transition. Orgs that claim to care about ALL LGBT youth should realize this.
This is rarely discussed--in fact, have not seen it EVER discussed in the media--but it's well known that the coming out process can take many years--particularly for girls and young women. 4thwavenow.com/2016/01/25/the…
The #StopClymer hashtag is trending again. Can anyone explain how *some* ppl in the ostensibly most oppressed minority on the planet suddenly gain MSM notoriety (not to mention actual political power) when they proclaim a new gender identity? nbcnews.com/think/opinion/…
Such nuance, compassion, & wisdom expressed by the woman who made this video.
In the 1st minute, she says her aim is NOT to make life harder for those who benefit from medical transition. *Most* detrans say this...yet they are still too often shut down.
It's in everyone's interest to minimize regretful detransition; that people be as certain as possible before embarking on irreversible hormone & surgical interventions. If some adults regret, it's patently obvious a slow, deliberate approach is needed for minors.
At 8:00: "I later found out my therapist didn't think transitioning was an appropriate step for me, or good for my wellbeing, but she didn't tell me that while I was taking those steps because she was worried about losing her license."