Idea of 'food systems' is a false construct purposely deigned to stitch up meat. 'Scientific' FRAUD. Livestock MUCH more. Here sheep fur coat 1939 fed 2k people at time,+30-80 wool garments/carpet; tallow lanolin etc. Saved generations fossil fuel heat still in use. Synthetics by
contrast produce NO food, and are driving fashion industry's considerable 10% emissions. Only thing near as good as wool is hemp & again not durable (It's sacking) or quality, & does not feed. Cotton doesn't either, & indeed the Aral Sea was responsible in just 20 yrs for
eradicating of an important local food source & 24 endemic species of fish extinct. Crops that are for food, generally do not clothe (at least without use plastic added). Neither synthetic/crop clothing as durable as animal sources, thus you need constant replacement production,
and shift away from wool leather etc responsible for this constant use of fossil fuel-crude oil for synth & coal use. Most of this is made in China using slave labour, & landfill bound in a yr. With training shoes it's just 6 months so you need 40prs to match a pr leather
pair's life of 20 yrs. They should only be used for sport they are NOT durable. Emissions thus based on 100kg emissions for leather pr, v 35kg synth, =1.3 tonnes more pp over 20 yrs. Now multiply by billions of people. Then add belts, jackets etc. The move away from wool, leather
etc was driven by fast fashion companies that wanted you returning to well regularly: they didn't want to sell you a coat pr shoes that lasted decades. Farcical Orwellian doublethink to see Mckinsey & WWF
working with likes of H&M re sustainability, and all engaged in despicable
WEF ecofascism for land & resources grab based on false alarmist fear scapegoating indigenous people & farmers & putting the very global corporates & financiers who have caused the problem of sustainability in the driving seat, with elitist monsters like Jeremy Grantham engaged
in funding the WWF, & academic institutions to spiv idea we should farms trees instead of sheep (when he's invested in wood/forestry), on record as saying he thinks Africa 'overpopulated' (patently isn't), & inciting eco activism to disrupt. WWF of course, engaged too on the
corrupted 'science' on meat, and here I caught them in CLEAR FRAUD on the emissions of average food dishes for eg.
It is inevitable that in the hands of Corporatism, vision for environment, food & tech will be taken out of hands of democracy & in to their
stewardship & using eugenics notions & fear to support it. Happened before: Nazis were corporatists it's economic model of fascism; & emphasis on tech & big data, & nature & food. They invented rewilding & evicting indigenous stewards, vision of plant based diets, & forest cult
Meanwhile reality of course (slav lands still have far more bears/wolves than Germany) is biodiversity prospers best very places where indigenous people steward; next best livestock farmer & pastoral people; & remember economic/cultural autonomy & ACTUALLY sustainable co produce
So you see how they want to talk 'food systems': a FALSE construct as it can't be separated from other consumerism. Even tech, with its wasteful inbuilt obsoletion model of business, is driving that massive Chinese industrial powerhouse, and with it deforestation. How so?
Because that industrialization, for mass tat clothing, furnishings etc has driven China's pasture loss at rate of 1.5 million hectares a yr, not far of size of Wales, for a wasteful business model, thus making them reliant on soya feed imports from Brazil. Was NEVER cattle/sheep.
The FAO study last year really upset the apple cart on livestock feed, showing most are pasture fed and what crops they are fed are mostly waste. But, there is a problem re the soya feed for pigs in China, where land & resources because of this industrialization, are giving rise
to grassland erosion (shared biodiversity remember) & need hi rise pig farms even to feed. Sources: Sustainable Food Trust sustainablefoodtrust.org/articles/dairy…
and FAO study review: cgiar.org/news-events/ne…
Even Oatly, vegan fake milk company, couldn't hide their waste being used for pig feed.
So maybe it's the Brazilian beef then? Errr...no. True that some deforestation was done in 1970s/80s for cattle, and that cattle go in first to trample & fertilize cleared land for land speculation usually for crops like soya. Indeed 90% of Brazil's cattle are PASTURE fed, do not
require further deforestation, & indeed have been long cited as egs of good conservation practice even by the WWF until they took the WEF bucks, deforestation there has decreased while cattle increased, & higher beef production could LOWER emissions there carbonbrief.org/higher-beef-pr…
So you have been comprehensively LIED to by media, and the ruse is beginning to collapse as the BBC had to withdraw their Liz Bonin documentary. It certainly isn't UK cattle/sheep eating soya, and certainly we don't eat Chinese pork: but TECH & MASS CONSUMER TAT like those
training shoes, & your laptop deigned only to last a couple years most certainly IS driving that so you see why WEF need a scapegoat. So significant in funding of the 'science' engaged in this BLATANT PSEUDOSCIENTIFIC DECEIT, who came up with idea of 'food systems' devoid of
reality of other related consumerism, as well as Grantham are of course BILL GATES and Wellcome. The former engaged in food imperialism in Africa, & in fake meat investments, and the latter long been involved in push to plant based diets at considerable funding of academic WHORES
But global domination inc of course are not just engaged in funding science that favours their alternative meat spivvery & global corporate food (& in case of Wellcome FOSSIL FUEL) investments, & attempt to bully small farmers who actually supply us, but also narratives that
exploit Covid. Lockdown science saw millions lose their jobs, starving some nations like an already undernourished vitamin d lacking populace India, food while failing to protect elderly & vulnerable despite 50k scientists wordwide re the Barrington Declaration objecting, MASSIVE
evidence that lockdowns do not work & cause greater problems. Wellcome, need to be held to account, as do scientists funded by them. But, it's the great 'food systems' con we are concerned with here so remember Wellcome funded EATLancet. Follow this thread
So I mentgion India, because food insecurity there was of course not JUST caused by lockdowns. Years of Gates funded interventions have done nothing to help India's problems, and the evangelical pushing of vegetarian diets suits the Indian religious elite's beliefs too. Follow
@Sakie339 who is keeping an eye on their disgusting spivvery in India failing those suffering malnutrition, with global corporates stitching up farmers there, & of course OBVIOUS answer being animal sourced food, as elsewhere. EATLancet eg flabberghasted Ethiopia's agriculture
minister, as animal food has elevated them out of the grain UN dependency & crop failures of the past to an extent. But back to Gates. Here this thread explore the web of science & media he funds and this is just scratching the surface.
This infographic was clearly designed re Gates Vaccine/covid exploitation, but easy to see the same organizations also pushing the food agendas if you follow that above thread. He is a monster, who only funds narratives that suit his investments & power.
The way meat was put forward as a scapegoat & WEF plant based diet & fake meat solutions also tapped in to moral panic about ethics re meat. So you have various other belief systems involved, as well as elite Indian vegetarian ones. Indeed I first came across Stordalen was
re her animals rights activism re fur, which to me appears incompatible again with genuine sustainability concerns, and certainly re indigenous peoples who produce a significant 20% of it, and just about all the beaver seal reindeer & sable. So her concerns are animal rights
beliefs motivated in origin, and so were her main authors of EATLancet Marco Springmann & Garnett for eg, as well as long time plant based advocated Walter Willets. We SHOULD be laughing at them if their crap wasn't being taken so seriously, especially by the UN of course, and
then people like YARA the fertilizer mining company, another of Gates heroes, involved. That's CEO of YARA on stage with her. So alliance of monstrous global corporates likes of YARA centre Norway's biggest ever corruption scandal to boot) with these 'ethics' is farcical.
And talking of reindeer & indigenous people...
anybody would think Norway need a scapegoat for their oil industry or something....YARA being part owned by their government, and fellow Norwegian Erik Solheim engaged with EAT after being chucked out of his job where he had been
singing praises of YARA as Head of UN Environment. This is NOT something people who are ethical, or genuinely concerned about environment do Gunhild, get involved with such rogues. Nor of course, are hypocrisy & lies (even those believed for greater good) something one associates
with ethics. They are all at it the jet set telling us to give up meat to save the planet of course. So if you believe these people have an ounce of ethics you are deluded, and the anti meat thing a diversion. One that has found favour at the core of the UN.
as it spivs the fake meat too. UN also in receipt considerable Gates funding too of course (esp the WHO) as well as that despicable Norwegian cartel involvement, & some pretty potty belief systems there too from communists to futurists to new age loons anti meat narrative suits
Scientist @fleroy1974 has been busy exposing some of the loons he describes as a 'freak show' involved with the UN & WRI and I highly recommend you following him for updates. You cannot believe the battiness of it all having a central role in DICTATING what we will all eat
And don't forget the Moonies involvement.
So here we are science led? I don't think so. Beliefs are hand in hand with the corrupt corporates in something @docmartincohen calls the 'Baptist & Bootlegger' coalition.
@fleroy1974 has also been looking at the influence of Seventh Day Adventism in so called 'nutritional science' and this has been also investigated by @BelindaFettke & @LouiseStephen9 who are other good follows on these topics.
'Science'? Or RELIGION?
Adventism doesn't just stop at nutritional 'science' either (& don't forget our old friends disgusting creepy as f*** Wellcome organization were Adventist in origin)
No, goes in to environmental science, & be ready for more laughs
Was years ago now I first encountered 'Scientists Warnings' to humanity & some academics I know being put under pressure to sign which they refused. But latest one, which also delves in to eugenics territory, lead author one William Ripple, & eminent co signatories such as
Professor Mickey Mouse, who admittedly does appear to have more experience in agricultural livestock than Ripple. IF you signed that crap you are a disgrace to science AND ethics Ripple is an academic connected with Loma LInda University , 7th Day Adventist and engaged along
with colleague Helen Harwatt, anti meat narrative. Loma Linda NOT nice org; history homophobia, even sex b4 marriage frowned on. And of course Harwatt study pretends livestock co produce (I've shown instrumental in returning to re emission reduction earlier) doesn't exist.
Harwatt's co author of course social media laughing stock among farmers Matthew Hayek who again has ignored land share for biodiversity v plant based,& that livestock are NOT just about meat. FALSE ACCOUNTANCY. I suspect as he is Harvard Animal Law then ethics led too.
Except nothing ethical about deception. Truth is that land used by animal livestock is often marginal, thus unsuitable for crops. And, as mentioned earlier does not also produce quality textiles, unless they don't produce food so need more land needed least of which for landfill
And monocrops, having a FAR greater influence to eco systems further afield than animal ag. Take almonds & the So Cal bee problem, the global insect damage from pesticides, vital to birds also affected, and the fact it destoys natural habitat in a way animal ag does not
Easy to see that animal ag shares land rather less abrasively with biodiversity than monocrops. So Harwatt & Hayek are comparing 'food systems' on size/productivity without telling the truth about the nature of the use, or the co produce from livestock reducing reliance on other
resources/land which as explained earlier considerable. Must stick in Ripple's throat 100k wolves one most extensive livestock 'systems' in world Kazakh/Mongolia (see pictorial earlier) but evident everywhere: where cougar Kansas no 1 crop state or Texas no 1 cattle state USA?
As for the emissions argument all these nutters & their bootlegger global corporate allies have latched on to, it must be driving poor old Micheal Mann round the twist.
He COULD have interjected with greater authority as he is the climate change guru, but he didn't, and he will
come to regret it. The case for livestock emissions has been a convenient distraction & scapegoat, and based on flawed interpretation. I hand over now to those who have more expertise in this area Professor Frank Mitloehner for eg: alltech.com/features-podca…
And in this excellent thread by Professor @fleroy1974 , It's a good job there are some decent scientists left not on the WEF payroll.
Or of course, working from a belief based evangelism new it Eastern mysticism, New Age bonkers, 7D Adventist, vegan/animal rights believing lies are in the cause of some nebulous greater good when nothing has quite damaged biodiversity on the scale of shift away from animal
produce. At this point worthy of a browse is award winning ecologist/paleontologist Mike Archer in this article citing cost of 100kg plant protein is 57 animal lives v animal protein just 2.2 lives on harvesting cost alone. theconversation.com/ordering-the-v…
Nor do they have any consideration of the dietary choices of various cultures, so the globalist 'inventory' food system accounting is also racist; based as it is in western imperialist solutions. As for food security it also dispenses not only with the 'give a man a rod' autonomy
but actually takes way the fish as it were too. Meat is an important part of human diet and has been since the dawn of man anything suggesting otherwise is NOT scientific; and clearly alternatives have caused our health problems. But moreover, it is NOT unethical: if you look at
these images of Siberian Nenets, at one with nature but utilizing it sustainably, and think them unethical from your western urban alienated from nature mindlessly tech consuming culture you need a bloody good slap tbh and told in no uncertain terms to get off your moral
high horse. But a look in to this culture, millennia old, gives us a glimpse of a culture between hunting & livestock with semi wild reindeer herds they tend. In the arctic wastes, unsuitable for growing crops, and whose only trade is furs: only so many reindeer sable or hare
furs you can wear yourself. This proud people were reduced to selling fur pelts for vodka due to the rejection of them by western consumers slap yourselves on the backs you evil cretins. Similarly stitched up were the Inuit. But, what this shows is truly enlightening thorn
in the argument that humans were once vegetarian. At a time thankfully there wasn't the oil burn crude oil using production of clothing that lasts less than a yr before being dumped, humans for tens even hundreds of thousands of years, were able to use animal co produce
for INSULATION. They patently did NOT much as the Adventists & vegan 'scientists' would love to imagine it, wander round the f******* tundra wearing fig leaves a la garden of Eden style. The use of animals for hide, & later textiles (oldest known use wool Serbia c 7 millenia ago)
has ALWAYS been as important as the food. This is why looking at animals as just as 'food' is so GLARINGLY a lie to me. The savings on insulation alone, are phenomenal, as anyone who has been to Yakutia will testify in minus 70 life goes on mainly thanks to furs, and they last
decades as do wool, leather cashmere etc garments & all with such phenomenal insulating properties. It is the clueless corporate worker in polyester & academic fool from centrally heated halls in cotton shirts in February, lecturing about sustainability, who have never darned a
sock and have all the latest tech for their zoom conferences, that should be staring oblivion in the face, along with their plant based diets full of palm oil that have wrecked the planet, as we switch heating OFF everywhere if we are serious about emissions literally we could
save FAR more than the entire cow burp emissions arguments by doing just this one thing: no central heating in offices schools (we used to have to sit in duffle coats teacher always had a fur on shoulders & we had our milk) malls public buildings and even homes: every OAP knows
already the benefits as they sit in blankets scarves and wool dressing gowns because they can't afford central heating on 24/7 as these spoiled overpaid urban brats telling us to stop eating eat do. Note energy use at home 10% global emissions largely fuel heat & hot water use
alone (let alone all the public buildings malls banks etc) which can be cut in half comfortably with return to animal fibres to keep us warm. Hell we in the UK used to know it sheepskin coats saw us through WWII AND FED US, and an institution style wise its what you don out at
a football match where no central heat. That ALONE would cancel out the ENTIRE animal ag emissions. That is of course, if we are serious about tackling it and the alarmism is justified. Because as I said, Micheal Mann would regret, because it is so BLATANT that the 'science'
has been so FRAUDULENT on animal ag, then EVERY area of science needs to be looked at with greater scrutiny re agendas of those funding it, as we are also seeing in the collapse of public confidence in SAGE etc re Covid. And what we are seeing, doesn't look exactly convincing and
sorry no, a little girl with pigtails barking at me to tell me to follow the 'science', or being called a heretic, won't work. The fact past climate from the early Holocene to middle ages was marked by significantly longer warmer periods, as evident from recent melted ice, with
no correlation with CO2 which was much lower, there were significant long ice free arctic periods, which polar bears EVIDENTLY survived (you really shouldn't have used them in propaganda), and climate models being shown alarmist & inaccurate, is bringing the idea under closer
from the public. Appeal to authority, when it is clear scientists/media have been engaged in fraud on meat & 'food systems' issues, will not 'cut any ice' for sure. Scientific community now needs to be held to account on many issues, and we'll be watching if you are funded
by the WEF mobsters & spivs, whose agendas we are starting to see through as an attempt to duff up humanity and cause further actual genuine damage to the planet through their relentless use of resources. You have been served notice on your bullshit from South Wales, a land
which standard of living is based on thanks to our coal & steel, & which they have already taken from us we stand firm on our sheep, which along with other UK sheep areas once clothed entire armies, & idea landscape sheepwrecked being revisionist nonsense when historic crops
& urban & ship use for timber & destruction for military purpose by invaders cause. And where kingfishers otters voles red kite hornet robber flies etc plentiful,& much remains little changed since Wordsworth's admiration of it land shared by tourism equestrianism fishing etc too
This is our land, not yours. And every rural culture globally needs to stand up against these globalist fraudsters, when agenda so clear. Take eg Our World in Data who I attach in these two threads with good cause.
Gates funded.
As my grandma from coal mining family used to say,
"If someone is trying to tell you shit is Cadbury's they can have all the figures & be the greatest of authorities, but don't bloody eat it"
Stick to the real thing which also has co produce that can actually save the planet
Along with our health, and relieve poverty by extended livelihoods and cultural autonomy from the cartel of global corporate crooks, use of slave labour and their fake science & attempt to subjugate humanity. Trust your local farmer; not Bill Gates.
@docmartincohen@StartsWithABang But can't even tell you the football results, & sneers at those who take interest in such things. Whole manner can be elitist who thinks their authority is unquestionable, yet prone to making the most basic mistakes, & even engage in fraud for either money or pure conceit
@docmartincohen@StartsWithABang or worse still, beliveing their lie is justified in pursuit of some nebulous 'greater good' without appreciating the harm it can do and scornful of those that warn. Lockown science a clear example of this, as was the huge death toll contributed to by refusal to consider
@docmartincohen@StartsWithABang fever hospital protocol tried & tested for an experiment. That is sheer arrogance, and it FAILED yet still they push it oblivious to the huge amount of counter evidence, and the opinion of now well over 50k scientists and health professionals signatory to Great Barrington Dec.
@oatly@CotswoldLadyB Patently FALSE.
FACTS
1.Cattle herd Brazil increased as deforestation decreased.
2.Very little feed 4 cattle.
3.90% Brazil's cattle pasture fed & beef production can be increased reducing emissions via such without deforestation (de Silva et al)
4.63% soya UK human use little👇
@oatly@CotswoldLadyB little cattle (Sus Food Trust) 5. Much cattle feed waste(FAO confirmed) as is pig feed but Oatly know all about that massive crop waste unsuitable human use 6. Pig/poultry main soya feed use: reason China losing 1.5 mill hectares yr pasture for tech, fast fashion etc 👇
@oatly@CotswoldLadyB consumerist industrialization, This is why it is pseudoscientific deceit to talk about 'food systems' isolated from other consumerism, which causes pasture loss & need for soya feed for pigs etc & of course some of that consumerism is DUE to move away from leather, wool etc co 👇
@fleroy1974@hairyhillfarmer Don't forget to add in the move from livestock provided co produce such as wool leather etc to fast fashion tat not durable so massive production for stuff that doesn't last a yr, or insulate (wool/sheepskin considerable fossil fuel heat saving pp). Because its hard to calculate,
@fleroy1974@hairyhillfarmer doesn't man it's not hugely important. So eg this coat has lasted since 1939 (fed 2k people at time) + produced 30-80 wool garments life shearings. Millions were made affordable practical & warm little cleaning if ever required, many have lasted they are not rare; ladies
@fleroy1974@hairyhillfarmer wore them as housecoats & threw over bed in cold weather. By contrast the average life on a fast fashion store coat now is 1 yr. So if we say, the mouton coat lasts 80 yrs, that saves cost of manufacture 80 coats synthetic made from crude oil same time. This is responsible for
@Otto_English Call yourself a journalist?
Inane, narrative most CERTAINLY penned from privilege not losing livelihood.
India deaths per mill 139
UK deaths per mill 1869
Yes having surge cases: what do you think lockdowns did to already undernourished VITAMIN D deficient populace you half wit?
@Otto_English Lockdowns in India will have exacerbated the problems and hit the poor hardest just as they have globally, while twats like you have cheered them on from your pampered protected jobs, when there are thousands papers on link between poverty & adverse heath outcomes
@Otto_English And for WHAT? Where is evidence they have worked?
PLENTY that they haven't worked; UK, Czech two of the strictest some of the worst death tolls, Belarus & Sweden no lockdowns (and even nations like Denmark held v Sweden but in fact had football with fans since last summer) better
Global solutions based on data devoid observation/specifics colossal problem atm many areas science. Re ag, dangerous, stupid, & fraudulent eg when not considering co produce, or seeing what drives soya feed re China is industrialization for mass tat destroying their pastures
You know, there is a reason twats like Bill Gates fund Our World in Data & other WEF mob fund science that does 'global count' rather than looking at specifics. It is FRAUD, and covers for the damage they do as it obscures the relationship
More on Our World in Data, and other fraudulent use of selective yet generalized accounting here, though I did manage to find a major piece that can be used against them on that specific point of soya re
Here I confronted GATES FUNDED (Invested lab meat) Our World In Data's drivel suggesting lab meat was way to protect wild mammals; at odds rich biodiversity livestock lands. Now a thread on why also WRONG to imply livestock/humans responsible for loss & UNSCIENTIFIC codswallop.
Ritchie reduces 100k of history to a few sweeping statements re loos of their biomass. She is not the only person to be engaged in this narrative; other poor correlation studies on it. The loss of megafauna, which hominids had hunted for millenia, were all suddenly lost
at virtually the same time, at end of the Younger Dryas; in itself an abrupt change from what had been gradual warming many had vanished. Doesn't even seem conceivable now, given the new estimated dates of humans in America being much earlier, that they were implicated as cause