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Lets talk about these 2 news what dropped on THR today shall we? Both are matters of interest for us and kinda crossed each other in a way. Follow the thread below.

Starting with: Behind Warner Bros.’ Search for a Black Superman (and BTW, the new site design is WAY cleaner, good change) hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-n…

Some things first from reading the piece: "Coates isn’t expected to deliver his Superman script until mid-December" which means people will want change what Coates have written, or drop his script at all if at their point they dont like it. [+]

It sounds like they are REALLY running up to go make this movie to earn the Bad Robot cash, but again, if they didn't find a director? Because at least without a script, nobody is gonna jump blindly at this. Which means, something is "weird" about the process,besides we know it.

"Neither Superman Returns nor Man of Steel lived up to outsized expectations" Correct at the first, TOTALLY wrong about the last, because trust me, they wouldn't spawn a full shared universe from a failure. Just see 2011's Green Lantern as example.

And this is another problem when he talk about Superman on film: is the concept he HAVE TO make the same numbers at Batman for example with any attempt to ressurect the franchise failed for almost 20 years. MOS put the IP back on track of success.

"As such, little will remain of the so-called Snyderverse vision" bitches never learn... And that is a major sign of been another Hamada PR-move.

NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE. They will gonna put everything together? and if is a Multiverse, they will be used ONLY to make different characters met each other? [+]

And if so, there isn't a "no touch" rule in the moment that CW's Flash can meet Phoenix Joker if they want (following that shit-ass logic). This paragraph contradicts itself on every word.

Ah, the classic "look at us, we are woke" paragraph!!! Where is that energy with Ray Fisher and Nadia Trucker? And again, on J.J Abrams is named. No one else. Aways "a source"/ "a source inside the studio", which aways means Hamada, the guy who paid for writing this.

OK, hamada woke up and said "i need to show i am doing something useful", and now are desperate for trying to set-up a Black Superman movie, a project what they are talking since 2019 to make.

The problem lies in several levels. The first is: what is about the other #Superman you have? I mean, if this is a Multiverse, you can and should have more than one Superman, in special if you are considering this movie to be a "Elseworld".

Second: not just Momoa, Gadot and Ezra are major stars. Cavill made himself a major Star with his works on M:I6 and The Witcher. And he is popular as Superman. Why not invest in a new project with him? [+]

Is because is based on what Snyder stabilish? This isn't a excuse for Flash, WW and Aquaman. You have no need to follow even what Snyder stabilish later on, with JOSStice League working as a break/"clean-slate" for the character.

You could brought Cavill back to the stabilish the franchise and shared universe you have build WHILE have a separate, standalone black Superman with all the freedom to work with (as 'Joker' did) without worring about replacement or continuity.

You can not expect this new Superman not been used as a replacement in the moment you dont announce NOTHING about the new one, not even a cameo on the films. Everybody will think is a replacement, and i think is what Hamada wants us to do.

And 3rd: the rumors said that Val-Zod or Calvin Ellis could be the first cinematic Black Superman. Both have great backgrounds and vast possibilities to be explored. Make a black Clark Kent for the sake of it sounds like a Token move.

You can just make Clark a black person, and expect the same notes been played, in special when you have things like ICON what explore exactly all the possibilities what they apparently want to do. So why not do him, or even Steel (again) instead? [+]

The excuse can be "because Superman is more popular" because again, we have TWO Black Supermen waiting their time to shine outside comics. Is not something driven by a genuine desire to explore the experience of been black through the filter of the Superman mythology [+]

but they can grab the greatest writer possible and the situation still sound hypocritical for several POVs, since that again, Warner have been exposed in the last of how badly they deal with black creatives and sometimes characters on their major projects.

And to be very clear: i'm not saying that me, as a white person, dont think a black Superman can work (because it can, and it was proven several times), and think just one or another Superman can exist (both can and should co-exist) [+]

these people in specific (in special Hamada) are trying to sell a idea what they didn't put in practice on their own company, whatever message they are trying to pass by having a Black Superman.

The general audience probably is not following all these events, but is very stupid that the presence of a Black Superman (whoever version of the character is) will erase the questions and call for accountabilities for the way they deal with black creatives before.

These questions will be just louder, and will end impacting how the audience will receive and perceive the movie. Because the DC Fandom, different of other fandoms, are WAY more self aware of the company behind their favorite characters, and isn't afraid to calll them out.

And now that we've talked about the first news of the day, we going for the second news of the day: Warner Bros. Film Chairman Toby Emmerich Floated for a New Job hollywoodreporter.com/business/busin…

"Hits during his tenure as a top executive include Wonder Woman, Crazy Rich Asians and A Star Is Born. Misses include 2019 films The Goldfinch and The Kitchen." AND JOSSTICE LEAGUE. NEVER FORGET THE MAN WHAT HELPS TO SINK WB'S BIGGEST FRANCHISE. #RestoretheSnyderVerse

"One Emmerich associate speculated that a call from Geffen to Sarandos may have been intended to help Emmerich gain leverage in a future negotiation with Warners." is a possibility, BUT besides money, why he have to negotiate his position if they think he isn't doing a good job?

Besides, yes, money is a major factor and of course plays a major role, he shouldn't be worried with the possibility to go out (not been fired as some interpret, this aint happening, unless a scandal drops out) unless there is people watching him VERY close just that early.

But as the editorial states, maybe David Geffen is doing that with the internet to make this help a "deal with the Devil" for Emmerich, what raises questions on what this could be, but i dont believe this is necessary about the movie industry.

Maybe Geffen wants Emmerich in a place what he can give something back, and i dont think will be just at movies side. Maybe foward we heard news about him trying bring him to the music industry as well, who knows.

BTW, the fact the Emmerich news link the Ray Fisher article is sensational.

And things start to get spicy in the article, highlighting the main and recent slippery-steps of Emmerich, including the day and date on HBO MAX.

And even that decision was made, again, by money, was a smart move for Emmerich push that foward and make, in a way, everybody win their checks as they should at the end. But the move HAVE their negative ramifications, and make the relationship of WB with everyone more fragile.

And again: The Snyderverse become a Pandora Box at Warner bros. But was open in a VERY interesting time, for everyone involved. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse

The thing is: we can count out Emmerich of Warners? No, not yet. A lot can change until next year, but have some key movies what can be a indicator on what can happen, like Dune (which as i remember, doesnt resolve the theater-&-stream problem yet), and of course, The Flash.

Would be GREAT for the #RestoreTheSnyderverse campaign for him coming out, but we still had to face Hamada (which again, have bigger chances to drop out now than Emmerich) and Sarnoff.

But at long therm, having Emmerich and Hamada off can give the movement a upper punch over Snarnoff, in special if the projects are HBO MAX centric. The problem towards the #ReleaseTheAyerCut is the same faced during ZSJL post, which still have direct involvement of WB [+]

But the spin-off projects been at HBO MAX, and sell out as series and not movies, can give the time and the confort of the #RestoreTheSnyderVerse receive Zack with open arms again to finish his story [+]

at the moment we hopefully wish the next persons to take that jobs understand the value of the IP and have the name of Zack Snyder attached, in the moment some of the main responsables for all the mess are gone for real.

The thing is, again, dont stop the presure: keep trending, keep hyping, keep buying the blu rays, 4Ks and merchandising, but in special, keep in mind that EVERYTHING IS A WEAPON, IN SPECIAL HBO MAX. #RestoreTheSnyderverse.

The MAX numbers of ZSJL will be the main ones what the replacements will look foward, and if we keep the numbers high and steady worldwide for the next years, we can indeed #RestoreTheSnyderVerse and nobody cant stop us.

And for now i'm done. And remember: DONT STOP FIGHTING. Half of the fight for us to win is we keep doing what is right. The other half, for them to lose, is just them keep doing stupid shit. #RestoreTheSnyderverse

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