Ghar wapsi continues. Now with an attempt to help community (his followers) too find a good response to self harm.
Probably gets awkward when they are surprised at his U-turn
So it seems from people who do self harm being attention seekers, we have arrived at a place where Brumby is doing his best to find a better response to self harm that doesn't get him spanked.
Not bad for under a week, eh? Practically transforming as we watch.
Unfollow anyway.
All Brumby ever asked for as per today's version is that you don't glamorize self harm and he is still against wokes. Unclear why, since he appears headed there himself.
The 'appropriating' someone's voice argument is used so illogically sometimes that it is verging on fallacy.
A person speaking their own perspective is not appropriating anything.
It is an ad hominem attack that also adds false accusation to basically shut someone up.
Regardless of the subject. Even if it is a man speaking on women's rights, savarna speaking on caste discrimination against dalits, corporate rich fellow talking of poverty, whatever.
Own perspective is not appropriation.
OTOH, it is appropriation when someone not from that identity claims to speak what their reality "really" is. Particularly when it contradicts stated reality by that identity. This must be opposed.
The distinction is huge. One is interested participation. Other is suppression.
So I had not really intended to talk about this since the woman in question didn't have a problem.
My reason for speaking up was more that if you're making a space claiming to respect women, then respect them, not trash talk their opinions even after she disagreed first time.
The thing with this not a democracy, my space, my rules thing is that this is exactly what women go through (Which was being discussed just prior). Spaces they live in are usually controlled by men, their opinions are often trashed and their rights can be conditional to approval.
My point was that if he invited her to speak in his space, he owed her the respect of not trashing her opinions.
That said, he was fine after a topic change AND the woman in question did not mind, so it is not my place to object further beyond the space when I was speaking.
Spent some time thinking about this thread. At the moment, hard to see how what you call the "militant Ambedkarites" can assimmilate anything. Whatever the reason, lack of trust with other castes, emerging strength... hard to say from the outside, but it is a fortress.
I had brought this up several years before too. I had called it the dalit extreme right. It was not as vocal as it is today, but this insularity, perceived by the most vocal among them as strength also serves to isolate and disempower.
From the outside, it appears identical to Brahminism, except reversed. You aren't good enough unless you are dalit.
The overall social response appears to be to leave them be, and a wariness/unease at the hostility.