I haven’t seen this End Citizens United poll, but every national poll I’ve found has Republican support for HR 1 — and the provisions in it — way lower than 76%. It’s reasonable to assume support among WV Reps is even lower.
I think HR 1 is a fine bill and that the Senate should pass it.
But if the specific poll being reported on in the underlying MSNBC graphic is anything like this question from the same firm, fielded in March, then I’m inclined to throw it in the trash ecuactionfund.org/wp-content/upl…
“Do you think corruption is bad”
83% of Americans: “yeah”
People who should know better: “83% of Americans think the Senate should pass HR 1 the For The People Act”
Really don’t want to be an asshole here, but this is just not a good way to get at issue attitudes… Like, I don’t have a lot of money, but I would bet all my savings against p(WV R supports HR 1) = 0.76
Anyway, data and polling people seem to agree with me on this, so I think I’ll move on now.
Final note: I don’t tweet about this to be a jerk or score Internet points. I think polling serves a vital function in our democracy, & that bad question wording can produce biased polls that hurt the industry—and, in turn, the people. This stuff is really important to get right!
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To be clear, I do not think HR 1 even comes close to meeting the threats to responsive, representative government that afflict our republic today. But opposing reforms because you want a deal with the minority, anti-democratic faction is not a good way to combat these problems.
Manchin’s opposition to HR 1 could end up being extremely short-sighted, too, depending on how the next 4 years play out. If Rs nuke filibuster in 2022/24, it looks silly in hindsight. Same if R state legislatures and House Reps manufacture a GOP electoral college win in 2024.
This is good but to quibble with @Bencjacobs@dziblatt if GOP leaders were paying attention to the *majority* in polls, they would know the public is against them. The problem comes with abusing polls to reflect the factionalization they have caused. Are the people at fault here?
Yes, that’s the point — if you use polls like you “should” you arrive at a different answer than the GOP is, which means the fault is in how *they’re* analyzing the data
You don’t want to read too much into these specials. But they are, on average, pretty useful for forecasting midterms — just not in isolation. Avg D swing suggests a constant national environment since 2020… So does Congressional ballot polling and Biden’s approval rating polls.
There are (at least) three huge problems with the US & state constitutions re: election subversion. Short thread
1) State legislatures are given power over how elections are conducted and which elections are legitimate—which POTUS electors to send, which contests to certify, &c.
2) Most offices are elected on a plurality-winner district-based electoral system, which incentives zero-sum politics and rewards acting in bad faith and against partisan mutual toleration and forbearance. This is one reason why you have partisan gerrymandering, but also how you
get GA removing full certification power from the Secretary of State, why AZ Senate Rs are voting for a second partisan audit of the 2020 electoral results, which were verified by both bipartisan and non-partisan processes already, and why 75% of R voters Parrott Trump’s big lie.
The single biggest reason Republicans can pursue anti-democracy positions is because they can win control of federal + state governments with minorities of the vote. Increasing electoral accountability by making outcomes more proportional is not a panacea, but would do a lot.
Of course, we're in this problem largely because Trump put us here, and there aren't a lot of ways to legislate your way out of demagoguery
I have talked privately with people for a while about my doom and gloom here, but the only real solution to *gestures wildly* "all of this" is to write a new constitution
The partisan vaccination divide, per new The Economist/YouGov polling:
Among Biden voters:
Fully vaccinated 76%
Partially 10%
Plan to get 7%
Won’t get vaxxed 2%
Not sure 4%
Trump voters:
Fully vaccinated 54%
Partially 6%
Plan to get 3%
Won’t get vaxxed 26%
Not sure 12%
It seems likely that Democratic-leaning areas (cities) will start to reach "herd immunity" over the next month, while rural areas and other Republican-dominated places will take longer — if they ever get there at all
People who won't get the covid vaccine are really ruining things for the rest of us