As some likely know, I recently talked about some aspects of Ohtani's hip action e.g., hip displacement via eccentric [twisting action] loading causing a "forward by turning," Actions synonymous with "Paul's "pelvic loading." I want to add to what he says here.
I think he is certainly empirically correct in saying that for most elite level hitters, the degree of "separation" between the hip and shoulder rotation [unload] is minimal.
To say it another way, the differential between the hips starting to rotate and the shoulders starting to rotate is minimal. [I will add here that, yes, there is some degree of variability among hitters as regards this differential, e.g, Harper opens the hips more than Trout].
But , in the context of the "blink of an eye" context of unloading, the differential cannot really be all that substantial.
This relatively minor differential physiological perspective makes sense, in that there are numerous muscles attached to the pelvic girdle that are linked to the mid to upper trunk.
One such example is the large latissimus muscle that is attached to the illiac crest [hip] and the humerus. As a result of this kind of linkage, the hip rotation can create a "pulling effect" [my term] on segments above it.
The Ohtani clip shows this---note how quickly the shoulders start to move as the hip rotation starts.
I'll add 2 more points: 1] I think THE key aspect of the hip rotation is the timing factor. Meaning the action starts to happen ...BEFORE full heel plant, i.e., rotation INTO foot plant.
2] Not all elite level hitters create this kind of eccentric loading action [think Bonds, Griffey, Manny Ramirez to cite but 3 great hitters]
So, it is not an absolute swing characteristic of elite level hitters. But, some do. I think there are 2 reasons as to why this kind of hip loading CAN be helpful:
1] It can --due what I call creating a greater "spring loading " of the back hip joint musculature---potentiate both the speed and magnitude of hip rotation.
2] It can also help to not open the hips TOO soon. One might describe this as OVER-rotating and/or opening up too much and "leaving the arms behind" too much [In golf Tiger talked about this problem].
I can still remember [circa the 1970's] seeing the uncontrollable sobbing of some Latin guys getting released at the end of spring training. Never saw any Americans react this way. Why?
Because growing up where they did, they fully well knew the very stark contrast between the opportunities they might have here, vs. where they had been and now had to return to.
In a somewhat relative context, some of my most favorite guys to talk to about this country are cab drivers in big cities like New York. Asking them what they think about this country almost always yields an interesting insight.
Last night I searched in vain [about 2 hrs. on my website] for an academic meta-analysis on implicit vs. explicit learning. I'm going to keep looking. But in the meantime here's a pretty good article about this [from a practical/teaching perspective].
An excerpt: "On the other side of the spectrum many self-taught athletes will often attempt to learn everything implicitly. The issue here is that without constructive feedback on the initial stages of learning bad habits will become permanent patterns in an athletes movement."
And: " Since you don’t know what you don’t know, you won’t be able to make the minor corrections necessary to continue to make improvements over the long term."
I have many times talked about the motor learning concept of....the "action-perception gap" [or differential] regarding what athletes THINK they are doing. As opposed to what they ACTUALLY do.
Aside from the VERY starkly drawn "differential" between Sammy Sosa's on deck swings [wherein he JUST moved the arms/bat in an almost straight down trajectory] as contrasted with his ACTUAL game swings....
....there may be no better ex. than the comparison of Pense's on deck vs actual game swings. Here's a clip of the on deck swing:
In a recent thread post I talked about Jim McClean's [golf instructor] concept of the "hip rise."
Here's a good slo-mo clip of Prince Fielder showing this [further slow it down via the .25 settings]:
Note the hip line change from relatively horizontal to the ground to much more DIAGAONAL to the ground from lead heel up to foot plant.
Also note---and this is very important---that though the lead shoulder "dips" [due to lead side lateral flexion] at heel up, by foot plant the shoulder line is more symmetrical [the "dip" is not there so to speak].
Go to about 2:31 of this clip of Ohtani:
[and slow it down to .25 using the settings]:
There are a number of functional parameters I want to emphasize.
1] Note the lead leg/knee "cocking" [internal rotation] at set-up [heel up]. Note that the FIRST movement from that point is the HIP action. The hips are counter-rotating [eccentric "twisting"].
I'm sure quite a few here have seen this overhead clip of Pete Rose done quite a few yrs back by Jack Mankin:
I consider this to be one of THE greatest clips ever that really helps to clarify what a high level swing actually looks like. Why? Well, one needs to understand the historical context of this clip.
Going back to around circa 2001 or thereabouts, aside from Paul Nyman's lead arm swing models, NO one had really shown this kind of clip of the relatively circular path of the knob from initiation to contact.