Listening to the Curtis Yarvin interview on the Fire Down Below podcast and there was an interesting point of disagreement that wasn't explored.
At around the 45:00 mark Curtis describes how to replace the current regime - a true election.
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At around the 45:00 mark Curtis describes how to replace the current regime - a true election.
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(paraphrasing)
"If someone was elected on a platform of 'I will take command of the executive branch entirely and rule' and the candidate who ran on that won, USG would give up and collapse due to preference falsifications and guilty knowledge of having ruled badly"
"If someone was elected on a platform of 'I will take command of the executive branch entirely and rule' and the candidate who ran on that won, USG would give up and collapse due to preference falsifications and guilty knowledge of having ruled badly"
One of the co-hosts (the one who speaks less) points out - "no, they would not lose hope and give" - *and he's right* - and the matter is dropped.
The things you think are being done badly aren't flaws, they're features to the ruling class.
The things you think are being done badly aren't flaws, they're features to the ruling class.
The prospect of their regime ending wouldn't leave them relieved - it would leave them terrified.
He analogizes it to Stasi - after the collapse of East Germany no one tries to get Stasi back together but there is a *massive* difference.
Stasi was plausibly the result of conquest and occupation and they reunited with West Germany - which also was conquered and occupied.
Stasi was plausibly the result of conquest and occupation and they reunited with West Germany - which also was conquered and occupied.
"I served the Soviets, you served the Americans, you were lucky that your overlords were better"
No one in the American regime can say anything remotely similar.
No one in the American regime can say anything remotely similar.
Anyway, go listen to the whole interview - the interviewers are sharp and knowledgeable and Curtis is fantastic and perceptive as always even if (at times) overly hopeful for the virtue of the class of his birth.
One final point.
In other interviews Curtis has talked about how Caesar in victory assumed power and the best thing about it was he wasn't the Imperator of Plebians or Optimates but of Rome.
In this interview he mentions a story from the end of Caesar's last military conflict.
In other interviews Curtis has talked about how Caesar in victory assumed power and the best thing about it was he wasn't the Imperator of Plebians or Optimates but of Rome.
In this interview he mentions a story from the end of Caesar's last military conflict.
After the defeat of the last of the Optimate forces led by Cato Caesar's men search Cato's tent and find his chest of letters - letters that would reveal who - though feigning support for Caesar - were secretly backing his enemies.
An opportunity to proscribe those men, seize their wealth and gift it to his followers.
Caesar orders those letters burned because, Yarvin explains, he rules Rome now and has no enemies because men bend to power.
5 years Caesar is assassinated by men whose letters he burned.
Caesar orders those letters burned because, Yarvin explains, he rules Rome now and has no enemies because men bend to power.
5 years Caesar is assassinated by men whose letters he burned.
Augustus does not act with the same mercy towards the old order.
He rules for 40 years and dies of natural causes
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(or maybe he was poisoned by his wife but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )
He rules for 40 years and dies of natural causes
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(or maybe he was poisoned by his wife but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )
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