How many rounds(भांवर) are right during marriages? 4 or 7
In Gujrat we have 4 rounds. 7 rounds are quite popular in UP,Himanchal,bihar and many other states✨
Does the concept of tradition applies here?
Shastras too falls under tradition. A tradition which does not go against श्रुति-स्मृति is considered right others are wrong.
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A tradition that does not mentioned in shruti smritis(as मंगलसूत्र) is right because it contradicts none.
पारस्कर ग्रह्यसूत्र of the shukla yajurveda which is very famous among pandits states:-
चतुर्थं शूर्पकुष्ठया सर्वाल्लाजानावपति भगाय स्वाहेति ।
4th time all the लाजा's{Kheels} should be sacrificed in fire then they do the last parikrama as said in 7th sutra
The हरिहर and Gadadhar Bhashya of the 7th sutra states:- " ततः समाचारात्तूष्णीं चतुर्थं परिक्रमणं वधूवरौ कुरुतः
Complete the fourth Round for sadachara.
Which means 3 rounds+1 round for achara,।
Bhagvan Ram and ma sita did 3 parikramas.
ईदृशे वर्तमाने तु तूर्योद्दष्टनिनादिते | त्रिरग्निं ते परिक्रम्य ऊहुर्भार्या महौजसः ।। ( Balkanda 73/39 )
In #मानवग्रह्यसूत्र 1.10 we have the clear statement:- चतु: परिणयति. Bride and Groom complete the parikrama 4 times.
In laghu ashvalambha smriti Vivaha prakrana/15 too:-विधिरेष विवाहस्य प्रत्याहुतिप्रदक्षिणम् । मन्त्रोऽर्यमणं वरुणं पूषण लाजहोमके ।।
3 mantras are defined for 3 ahutis and then one round for each ahuti is described. Which means 3 round with mantra and 1 can be done without it.
The unnecessary relation of rounds with #सप्तपदी and the "7 life means 7 rounds" has given rise to such traditions. सप्तपदी takes place after rounds not with it.
TVs and others are responsible for this too,they have also maligned the tradition at many houses.
With wrong vidhis marriages will fail without a doubt.
Rayta science logy dot com. Someone was saying "there must be 8 rounds to promote equality"😆
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I'm going to cover the Vedic perspective+ I will cover historical aspect also.
This story comes in Valmiki Ramayana,Devi Bhagvatam ,BrahmVaivarta that "Indra made physical relations with Devi ahilya(wife of महर्षि गौतम) . Hence Indra is called जार(lover, destroyer) of अहिल्या.
Indra is called the जार of ahalya in these sections of Vedas:-
अहल्यायै जारेति। अहल्याया ह मैत्रेय्या जार आस {ShādVimsa Brahmana 1.1}
अहल्यायै जारेति {Shatpath 3.3.4.18}
There are random articles on the internet which interprets the term दास, दासी as Slaves or "female Slaves". They try to prove this similar to the western slavery. Lets have a look at their claims:-,
Yesterday,Someone DMed this to me. I wasn't able to find the original source.
I looked at all the similar claims and I found out that all the articles have imagined "slavery" and injustice just by the word Dasā and provided nothing to substantiate their claims.
Be it the references from the rigveda samhita or the brahman of the samhita( ऐतरेय) They just mention the term दास or दासी. They do not mention what is done to them,what are their Works.
It can't be called slavery. It is "servitude"
A discussion on the term "वर्णसंङ्कर" (Gita 1.41-1.43)
What does this term means?
Children born out of the "Intercaste marriages" or Children born out of the "adultery"? Or something else
Q:- Does the term Varnasankar only means "the result of Intercaste marriage?
A:- The term mainly means such. The other meanings denotes the son born out of "सगोत्र विवाह, व्याभिचार" as varnasankar.
The broken यज्ञोपवीत tradition also result into Varnasankarta.
Q:- What is the pramana for this?
A:- Manusmriti 10.24 describes the same thing. But they are the वर्णसंकरता by प्रकारांतर the main वर्णसंकरता lies in result of Intercaste marriage.
The truth does not lie under pratyaksha pramana it is beyond all 6 pramanas It is called अप्रमेय.
प्रत्यक्ष in nyaya means the connection of Senses with the object. Experience is not pratyaksha...
Simple question how do you know "shri krishna said that in shrimadbhagvadgita"
Itihasa can't be प्रत्यक्ष, anumana can't work here. You are accepting शब्द प्रमाण and then rejecting it on your books. Very nice
Whatever I'm going to write further, Use it in the case of this mantra only. Don't try to use it everywhere..
This verse exist in the famous Indra- Indrani samvad suktam or Vrishakapi suktam. People show the commentary of Sripad Damodar Satavlekar (available on govt website)
At first how can someone take the Injuction such as "Killing a cow" from the words "they cook bulls". Are they same animals? no. Do they have same value for us? no, cow is definitely supreme..
No logic,no proof, no context".
Acharya sayana has used the word "वृषभ" in his commentary, because it's a sanskrit term we can find interpretations with valid meaning. But Satavlekar ji has directly used "बैल" in his commentary.
Recently the Government of Uttar Pradesh has passed the population control Bill and many governments are planning to do it in future.
Here is a short analysis of the policies ( Taken from my instagram post)
I have seen guys celebrating because the population of "Muzlims" will decrease they care nothing about their own population and families.
SP Minister said :- "No matter how many laws you make,one who has to take birth will take birth"