News outlets rushed out the governments interpretation that this was a great success. This is to be expected by the stenographers
My real concern are the number of highly qualified experts who have also been over selling the report
Did they trust the summary without reading it?
I really don't know how these experts all came out this morning to tell us how good this study was, that it shows exactly what the government wanted it to show, the people who didn't have any criticism for the study
They must see this was when we had low Alpha transmission
That schools didn't report all positives, that participation wasn't great, that trial schools were shut part way through due to PHE response to the rise of Delta.
I do not see how anyone can seriously look at this and think they have rigorous reliable evidence base for policy
So how come so many government advisors, paediatricians, and PHE ppl seem blown away with this study, out in force telling us how brilliant it it?
They are going to defend it to the hilt and be deeply critical of those raising issues about it
These are the ppl who almost always come down on the govs side
They sold us
Children less likely to be infected
Less likely to transmit
Transmission occurs in community not in schools
Schools have effective safety measures
Social distancing not needed
Masks not needed
Schools could stay open regardless of peaks and waves
Long covid is so rare its not a concern
Vaccination is more risky than infection
Everytime the gov needs a back up opinion, the benefit of the doubt these ppl are there
They are still claiming significant transmission doesn't occur in schools.
They produce and hold up flimsy studies and then make out anyone who finds fault is scaremongering or a zero covid fanatic, been quick to jump onto the labelling of iSAGE members
They are the false centrists.
Create a spectrum with skeptics and GBD on one side, set themselves up as being the centre and that means Zero covid supporters and general critics of gov policy can be labelled as fringe views.
"We are the centrists, we weigh up the balances in public but always end up coming down in broad support of the governments policies"
"We shift the scientific Overton window by creating a false centre,"
We will downplay every risk on schools, produce selective studies and dismiss any data that's inconvenient, our evidence base has been made use of by skeptic groups around the world.
Perhaps this is a groundbreaking study, unlike other studies that ended up mired in technical debate, this one is just a mess.
Makes it easier to identify dishonest voices, if they are selling this without massive caveats I don't think I can see them as an honest player
Thought I'd finished this, Bernadette Young who was involved in the trials has just been on @StephenNolan
"Its a safe way of managing close contacts"
"Shows for young people contact has a low risk of infection"
"Proves this is a potent tool in our toolkit"
No uncertainty shown
This is how we end up with the government claiming infection is better for children than vaccination, that we don't even need to worry about mitigations and get away with very little media scrutiny.
Claiming young people are better off getting infected than vaccinated, using this kind of language in the child vax debate probably doesn't help hesitancy
If you seek 100% vaccine coverage and Zero covid you will create a vaccine evasive strain, many scientists are saying its much safer to have a hybrid immunity strategy
Next
Lockdowns don't work, they have just coincided with natural waves that were coming regardless of what we did
Henegan has proven this
Natural immunity is better than vaccination, but still get jabbed, we have now gone beyond the herd immunity threshold for adults, there's more work to be done, young ppl need to go out and catch it and recover, and they will be in an even stronger position because natural
🧵DCT trial results are being trumpeted by Telegraph today.
I was one of those saying they were unethical, and knowing how concerns of CEV families were treated in some of these schools I maintain that view.
I think its important to note the size and context of the trial.
Here's a link to the trial details.
The timing for the trial March to June was shortly after schools went back, cases were very low, Delta was still rising to dominance with cases starting to rise at the end.
🧵Infection or Vaccination,
which is better for children?
What do the experts say?
Depends on which experts you ask
It comes to balance of harms, how are these harms being weighted?
Vaccine harm, short and long term, initial risk of covid infection, long covid, harms that manifest much later, risk of transmission, risk of mutation, length of immunity, degree of immunity against reinfection and future variants.
Are all being costed
US, Israel and others have already vaccinated millions of 11-17, other countries have yet to approve vaccination, and hundreds of millions of children live in countries which don't have enough vaccine supply that they won't be in a position to make this decision for some time
Had to make notes of what I just heard on @lbc from Maajid Nawaz
It's a selection of dangerous skeptic nonsense.
He's now saying we need all the children to get infected as we cannot counter the seasonality of covid so lets get it over to done with before September.
"Long covid is rare, of the minority who catch covid only 10% get Long covid, a million people might have Long covid but there are 70 people in the country, so its a minority of a minority"
Couple mins ago he explained we should expect everyone to catch it...
Took a while but they finally got back to mass infection and acceptable deaths as official strategy, and most media are busy telling this is the only sensible course to take