1 We need the scientific method to figure this out! Or do we?

Karla Turner - 1994 NJ Lecture: "Some of you have been studying UFOs since the 50s or the 60s. Maybe some since the 40s. And u were looking at lights in the sky, u were looking at craft on

2 KT: "radar. We've had scientists out there trained to measure angles of descent to test for landing traces, trajectories, to corroborate witnesses. What color were the lights, what shape was the craft, where did it go, where did it come from? And scientific equipment of every
3 KT: "sort has been focused on the UFO phenomenon for 50 years. And many groups, like @mufon and others, claim that the scientific approach is the only approach we should use, & it's the only way we're going to get answers. And my friends, I can challenge everyone one of them,
4 KT: "and I have to their faces, to tell me after 50 years of scientific investigation, have you learned who these creatures are, where they come from, or why they're here? Is there anyone who has learned this with a scientific approach, that you know of? MUFON itself has not
5 KT: "been able to give me one reply. I spoke @ the MUFON International Symposium this summer & I made the same challenge and all I got was silence. Science is not going to penetrate this. It is not capable, as it is now, to penetrate what is going on because this is above
6 : KT: "the three-dimensional, scientific paradigm that science holds on to as if it were a holy crusade to not move past it. And we have to move past it if we're going to make any headway. The UFO community resisted the abduction reports more vigorously than anyone, in the
7 KT: "beginning. Did you know that? Remember the first few reports? 'This can't be! Yes, people can see craft but certainly they're not seeing anybody in them. They're obviously empty. There's nobody flying them.' And if anyone claimed to have actually seen an alien or had
8 KT: "an encounter, they were immediately written off by the UFO community as being crackpots & looneys. 'Nobody has encounters.' They resisted vigorously. And then pushed by evidences as case after case begin to come forward, grumbingly, the UFO community said 'Okay, maybe
9 KT: "there is somebody in those ships. Okay maybe occasionally, one of them might get out of the ship. Maybe every now and then some random witness might accidentally see one of these little creatures out taking soil samples or picking up some flowers or gathering some water
10 KT: "'from the reservoir. But nah, it's not a common event' Even Budd Hopkins, as recently as the early 1980s, was saying, 'All right, people may be getting abducted at some point, but it only happens once. It's that random and rare.'
11 KT: "There was no idea, even among the leading researcher in the field, that it was a recurrent situation. He would accept one report but if the person said they came back he'd say 'Out of the office.' Because that was where the research stood. It was conservative, it was
12 KT: "resistant to change, and Budd is the first to admit he was pushed to change by the evidence and he waited until it was overwhelming before he would change. There are some people who have been forced to change much faster."

~Karla Turner - New Jersey lecture - 1994
13 Of course, if WE had access to ALL of the data collected since the early 1930s and allowed mainstream scientists to comb through it, I think we could answer a lot of the questions, just like the small number folks who have had access to that data since the beginning.

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Joe Murgia

Joe Murgia Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @TheUfoJoe

30 Jul
1 I'm pretty sure most people don't remember this...

The Tic Tac shot off to the left & that was the end of the encounter & video. Well, not according to @JTurner423, who was onboard the Princeton.

JT: "And then, once you see it where it takes off & goes to the left. That is
2 JT "when they started chasing this thing. And then it was making maneuvers that no human being could ever survive. The g-forces that would be put on these people would just…you would die…instantly. And then being in these… you know, the jets, the fighter jets and not being
3 JT: "able to keep up with them at all. That’s mind-blowing.”

@GaryVoorhis, who was also onboard the Princeton, says he saw a longer video of Tic Tac, too.

“We were watching it. We were watching the entire video, just like [Jason] Turner. He was lucky 2 have a top secret
Read 13 tweets
30 Jul
1 Bigfoot alert. Don't read if that subject bothers u.

Read, & u may start to question certain assumptions made about UFOs, weapons failing (or jammed) & cars stalling.

"It was in the early 1970s that my investigations began to reveal some strange elements associated with the
2 "eyewitness accounts of Bigfoot that suggested that these creatures might be stranger than just an unknown animal. Trails of large footprints in the snow that abruptly just ended, reports of Bigfoot physically appearing and disappearing, and UFOs and Bigfoot seen together were
3 "just some of the oddities that came to my attention. I started writing about those strange details in the early 1970s.

"It is now 2021, and these type of strange cases continue to take place over the years. Many similar reports have surfaced from not only Pennsylvania, but
Read 7 tweets
28 Jul
1 Underwood - Tic Tac - Two sets of 8mm tapes came from his F/A-18. Radar was on one of those tapes. That will probably never be released. Wishes we could release it bc it shows initial contact. Initial contact comes on radar and NOT FLIR.
2 Initial contact (radar) shows its erratic nature. He was interviewed 1/10 of 1% by gov’t as opposed 2 being interviewed by JC. (WTF?) He had jamming cues on his jamming tape. Also seen on SA (Situational Awareness). Object wasn’t behaving like a civilian or commercial airliner
3 Tic Tac went off to the left bc it moved like that and it wasn’t bc of any maneuver his plane made. Once it went off to the left, it disappeared off of his radar and Princeton radar. He tried to reacquire but no luck.
Read 10 tweets
13 Jul
1 Lue on a @JChurchRadio

Lue starts off by talking about how long it takes him to pee now that he's older. 😃

LE lost his mom to cancer but, he does NOT have cancer. Had a scare. Urges everyone to get screened for that kind of thing.
2 Lue does not pay attention to social media but says he DOES read the tweets that are addressed to him. He says he checks Twitter.

Talking about the 23-minute UAP video.
3 180 Day Report is out. Now what?

Preliminary Report - One of many...

Congrats to us.

IG evaluations are ongoing. That REALLY could provide leverage on this subject. Congress calling for public hearings.
Read 17 tweets
12 Jul
1 Someone who did amazing work on the Wilson/Davis story is @OmniTalkRadio. I cued up @g_knapp's interview with him (Giuliano) where he starts out explaining how he set up the 2nd (after Dolan did in 2006) phone call to Admiral Wilson by @billeecox.

2 And here's Knapp on the Wilson/Davis documents:

Knapp: "Dr. Eric Davis...I can just tell u that it is well known, in a small circle here, that there was a meeting w/Admiral Wilson in Las Vegas & these notes are an account of that meeting, typed out after the meeting happened.
3 Knapp "But it happened in an automobile, I think, in Las Vegas & Eric Davis & Admiral Wilson discussed secret programs, crash-retrieval materials that r housed somewhere in the gov't. If those documents r real, if the meeting really did take place, what's the significance 4 u?"
Read 6 tweets
12 Jul
1 Sheehan & a different way of saying what Jesus did. It's like Moby saying, "We are all made of stars." Or some guy Carl & "star stuff."

Sheehan: "If u come 2 understand that the stuff of which this bread is made of is the same stuff that my body is made of, & if u can come to
2 "understand that the stuff of which this wine is made of is the same stuff of which my blood is made of, then u will understand who I am, & u will understand who u are, u will understand who we are, & u will do much greater things than I when u come to understand this" ~Sheehan
3 And just so folks know, I am NOT religious. I still hold a grudge against Christianity bc I want to a Christian retreat in Bushkill Falls, PA in Feb. of 1980 & missed THE game where we beat the Soviets. I found out when one of my fellow retreat goers said, "Oh, the US won." 😩
Read 4 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Too expensive? Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal Become our Patreon

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!

:(