@tfamerica3000 @tommy_pane @adamsteinbaugh You recall that there have been calls for making laws against the various Trump treacheries, saying "he is breaking the norms but there are no laws..."

This is the exact problem, and the line between a corrupt society, lawless, that needs laws to keep everyone in check,
and a
@tfamerica3000 @tommy_pane @adamsteinbaugh 2/ principled ones, where the citizenry is responsible, not trying to take every possible personal advantage, basically a society governed by "the rule of law".
An easy ex being intersections/stop lights.
If everyone has respect for the rules, there is a natural working flow.
@tfamerica3000 @tommy_pane @adamsteinbaugh 3/ When an individual breaks the rules and runs a light it causes a crash. When "everyone" tries to run the yellow etc. the 'lawmakers' have to extend the yellow to try to avoid the crash [&etc]..eventually the system is so violated it becomes untenable & you end up w traffic
@tfamerica3000 @tommy_pane @adamsteinbaugh 4/ that is found in other countries where the underlying principle is "the biggest vehicle has the right of way"... or the most brash...
The system devolves into a "tyranny" of sorts.

The analogy is exact. IMO.

By requiring more & more laws to cover what was once organized
@tfamerica3000 @tommy_pane @adamsteinbaugh 5/ by principles and a general consent to the general benefit of the commonweal, we are becoming more lawless, not more.

And someone like a Trump (who is at root a charletan, but an idiot, preparing the ground for someone actually competent in his venality) who has no
@tfamerica3000 @tommy_pane @adamsteinbaugh 6/ compunction to take any/everything he can. And now the GOP (GTP?) has capitulated into that mode...[ref a prior post of mine re the nature of the GOP to power...that they want power at any cost...Even the cost of the American system].

and etc.
it is a deep subject.
And we
@tfamerica3000 @tommy_pane @adamsteinbaugh 7/ are in it deep.

My 2 bits.
Sorry for being discursive.

ref my link re GOP/power.

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30 Jul
@tommy_pane @tfamerica3000 @adamsteinbaugh Lets start here:
My understanding of the constitutional structural organization of power does not include a president going rouge & trying to override the will of the citizenry with stupid as well as outrageous claims of "I won". The constitution could only provide for
@tommy_pane @tfamerica3000 @adamsteinbaugh 2/ an attempt to balance the power between the functional grouping of a civilized & complex society. Specifically the entire edifice of government rested upon the singular principle of "Consent of the Governed". From there the std 3 branches of gov are articulated & premised on
@tommy_pane @tfamerica3000 @adamsteinbaugh 3/ the expectation that while there would be expected threats of corruption & drifts toward tyranny, by breaking up the power in this way it was presumed, or assumed, that the various branches would mitigate any attempt by a rogue executive to take over the government.
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28 Jul
@tommy_pane @tfamerica3000 @adamsteinbaugh No
You are part of a tribe that justifies the ongoing attempt of a sociopath to renege on the principles, norms & values of the American constitutional system, including the gracious acceptance of defeat & the peaceful transfer of power.

nytimes.com/video/us/polit…
@tommy_pane @tfamerica3000 @adamsteinbaugh 2/ All else is bull-sh* until you figure that out.

Of course I understand your position & perspective. It is not that difficult. It is the forever debate & struggle over power, resources, governance & society
Sometimes hard questions
But the answer that is Trump is a foolish one
@tommy_pane @tfamerica3000 @adamsteinbaugh 3/ Did you manage to watch the hearing today?
Probably not, is my guess. Too busy like McConnel?
You should catch at least some of the highlights.
You'll see what a fraud the various attempts to divert attention fr Jan6 have been.

These are your peeps.

theguardian.com/us-news/2021/j…
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10 Jul
@tommy_pane @adamsteinbaugh Thx. Read it. Nothing new here. Though well summarized.
It would be foolish for me to try and discuss much less counter the very many half & full misconceptions. That this is detail making up the hard foundation of your complaint is... well..ibid.

I get you & yours believe it be
@tommy_pane @adamsteinbaugh 2/ essential primary truth. How could it be otherwise? You won’t abide anything that contradicts the received “truth” that the sun revolves around the earth.

I particularly notice the many times the ‘appeal to authority’ in the setup of ‘many people believe...’.
@tommy_pane @adamsteinbaugh 3/ I I suppose I could do a point by point response...but why? It has been done before. As well as well documented books and articles that engage these matters....all without making a dent.

I could stipulate ea point and still virtually all the actual issues re Tr and his
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29 Jun
It must be one of the rules of "Art of War" to change the actual field of battle while appearing to still be engaged.

The assumption in our politics is that the sides are fundamentally in agreement re core values.
To fight on that premise is to have lost before the fight.
While one side is tangled in exasperated attempts to make congruent utterly discongruous points gives them the advantage to drive truckloads of harm through the gap.
There are far too many examples to list... McConnell's shifting rational &deviousness re the Supreme Court is one.
Another is the entire Jan6 debacle. How is it possible anyone, of any party, would not want to get to the bottom of such a momentous event?
Well, that assumes that all the parties are essentially devoted by their oath & patriotism to the country & its essential well-being.
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15 Jun
@heavyblankey @tommy_pane 1. Here is the post that has a succinct explanation.
2. I had similar confusion re the title... it does not say what it means... Academics! Apparently this is an idea first discussed in the 70s
3. In short, it means there are racial issues that have been in play fr the beginning
@heavyblankey @tommy_pane 2/ Why this is controversial eludes me. It is pretty obvious. As such it is uncontroversial that deep racism was embedded into the founding of the country. Not only blacks, but Indians. It is embedded in the constitution. And is manifest throughout American history.
@heavyblankey @tommy_pane 3/ That said seems the problem comes when trying to discuss that in terms of today. And conflating the systemic racism that is in the laws, customs and constitution w individuals who do not like being called racist.
That is where it gets complicated. IMO.
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17 May
@tommy_pane GP is barely readable it is so full of tripe. The comments even more so.
I esp "enjoy" how the Trumpers have to find some off to the side detail to magnify into a mountain and then use that to insinuate "see...EVERYTHING THE ANTI TRUMP PEOPLE ARE SAYING IS WRONG..LOOK AT THIS".
@tommy_pane 2/ In the case of this article it is the Steele report. And in particular the "dossier’s most explosive claims".
Elevating the 'pee pee tape' as if this were the central and most important claim in that report is so disingenuous as to be laughable... which it is.
@tommy_pane 3/ 1st. The Steele report was never proposed as conclusive. It was a research report of issues to be followed up on. Some of the details have been validated others not, or inconclusive, as the report quoted says.

The important claim in the report was the Russia involvement in
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