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2 Sep, 8 tweets, 16 min read
@MaharashtraDhrm @From_Himalaya @bidesh_desh @abhivaarta @maidros78 @RituRathaur @DuttaSoumyojit @MNageswarRaoIPS @Aban__Ind The history of convenience perhaps. Reality is territorial differences that made a Maratha military push-back possible whereas, even if Bengal tried, with exception of its western difficult terrain like it could not resist the combined Mughal-Rajput armies on flat lands.
@MaharashtraDhrm @From_Himalaya @bidesh_desh @abhivaarta @maidros78 @RituRathaur @DuttaSoumyojit @MNageswarRaoIPS @Aban__Ind Both Marathas and Bengal had started off in similar positions in 17th c. Please dont foregt that Marathas were very much part of mullah regimes and armies and therefore "collaborators" after fall of Devagiri Yadavs for nearly 300 years.
@MaharashtraDhrm @From_Himalaya @bidesh_desh @abhivaarta @maidros78 @RituRathaur @DuttaSoumyojit @MNageswarRaoIPS @Aban__Ind Again within that, any token resistance was deep in the difficult western narrow strips of the Ghats (Ghatmatha) but the flatter "Desastha" maratha groups largely joined the regional sultanate forces. Compared to Ghats, western Bengal has relatively simpler terrain, yet
@MaharashtraDhrm @From_Himalaya @bidesh_desh @abhivaarta @maidros78 @RituRathaur @DuttaSoumyojit @MNageswarRaoIPS @Aban__Ind within even that the western Bengal regional chiefs largely remained autonomous until 17th c. Its a travesty of history to declare Bengal as having been unresisting to Mughals by ignoring the histories of chiefs who did resist. Maratha "signal" boasted of here wd be very dubious.
@MaharashtraDhrm @From_Himalaya @bidesh_desh @abhivaarta @maidros78 @RituRathaur @DuttaSoumyojit @MNageswarRaoIPS @Aban__Ind I have noticed that you never give the real reason the first "Maratha" raids into Bengal happened: while there is nothing to say for jihadi Alivardi, the Marathas were not going there to replace mullah leaders, but place a Muslim rival of Alivardi Khan in power.
@MaharashtraDhrm @From_Himalaya @bidesh_desh @abhivaarta @maidros78 @RituRathaur @DuttaSoumyojit @MNageswarRaoIPS @Aban__Ind When discussing military success, u must mention factors that impact outcomes. Only will isnt sufficient. Great mil geniuses floundered in Rus for ex in spite of doing everything feasible within their limits of tech and strategy& Russians not showing that much brilliance either.
@MaharashtraDhrm @From_Himalaya @bidesh_desh @abhivaarta @maidros78 @RituRathaur @DuttaSoumyojit @MNageswarRaoIPS @Aban__Ind Its unfortunate and plays into hands of our enemies to say one region did not heed "another's" call, and the reason I avoid maratha-bengali comparisons. There cd be pts in history that cd be similarly seen as when "maratha" didnt heed Bengals call either - as in Gandhism.
@MaharashtraDhrm @From_Himalaya @bidesh_desh @abhivaarta @maidros78 @RituRathaur @DuttaSoumyojit @MNageswarRaoIPS @Aban__Ind Marathas wr the last hope of militant Hinduism and their defeat was a setback, but they didnt show the maturity of their early ldrship in rising above petty personality clashes& ruined the national project. Lets keep the lesson at that, and not interregional mine is longer stuff.

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10 Sep
A bemused take on the place-identity link to claims of social status. Sometimes its a compensation of a hidden sense of inferiority. This manifests in Islamic attempt at erasing pre-Islamic cultures they raided by renaming their places
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But the sense of inherent inferiority complex becomes obvious in Islamic attempt at denying that the places they raided had a distinct geography and place-linked culture and tried to impose their "home-place" identity by name alone or by destroying pre-existing cultural symbols.
It showed that they actually found their festishized "home-place" inferior in things that they desired, so that they didnt return to that cherished superior home-place rather occupied the territories they feigned to look down upon. To compensate, home-place had to be eulogised.
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4 Sep
@MaharashtraDhrm @From_Himalaya @bidesh_desh @abhivaarta @maidros78 @RituRathaur @DuttaSoumyojit @Aban__Ind No need to stop at Satavahana: u cd make even the Mauryas marathas. Its a bit tiring as I am reluctant to fuel the regional supremacy bit. It took a lot of goading for you to, even obliquely, acknowledge that first Maratha raid into Bengal was to replace one jihadi with another.
@MaharashtraDhrm @From_Himalaya @bidesh_desh @abhivaarta @maidros78 @RituRathaur @DuttaSoumyojit @Aban__Ind The fact that u wr aware of this came in ur tweets first trying to pass it off as "tormented Afghan muslim appeal", but well, Mir Habib's name was a lot difficult to spell out. I wd hv expected this straight right at the beginning. Thats how history is falsified for false pride.
@MaharashtraDhrm @From_Himalaya @bidesh_desh @abhivaarta @maidros78 @RituRathaur @DuttaSoumyojit @Aban__Ind Rabindranath was a "sir" for some time, but if he is the sole cane to whip Bengal with, then u shd also respect his sentiments in relinquishing the title: so not refer to him by his "prior" title that he rejected. But lets go deeper into the poet.
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4 Sep
@abhivaarta @Aban__Ind @bidesh_desh @From_Himalaya What is really the issue here? will everyone be happy if its said, no no all mollahs in Bengal are converted indigenous Bong Hindus or Bong Buddhists and a proof of how bad Bong hindus are? Muslim "migration into Bengal" was a hot topic in Pakistanyat campaign days.
@abhivaarta @Aban__Ind @bidesh_desh @From_Himalaya Migration will be as difficult to "give source material" on, just as even the so-called contemporary Mughlai censuses have not been handed down in their "sources", and summaries still led to at least 4 different estimates of population numbers, forget demographic details.
@abhivaarta @Aban__Ind @bidesh_desh @From_Himalaya The few studies primarily agree that it was scum Mughlai consolidation in Bengal that coincides with relatively rapid growth in Muslim mumbers in Bengal, but even then after scum Brit advent, the early Brit censuses don't show mullah majority.
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1 Sep
1) They r playing innocent kids caught stealing the pie in making evacuation fiasco the whole issue: while the issue is that US poisoned the whole subcontinent to poison Russia, and then fled without cleaning up their poison. This is what Biden admin shd be marked for, forever.
2) the evacuation failures are an operational issue, as obviously not planned well in advance, not thought out for consequences and possible knowingly ignoring ground intel or more maliciously, preventing proper response because of hidden objectives.
3) However, this is a smaller fault, a fault of ignorance - which is unbelievable as an excuse for the level of intel US collects, or a fault of cynical ideological and shortsighted real-politik biases without thinking of long term consequences or concern for even "friends".
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1 Sep
1) Poignant reminder as to how hypocrisy is the inevitable solution to hiding real motives in a way that doesn’t allow others apply the same methods. West achieved what it wanted for Afghanistan and left it exactly as it had always wanted: under totalitarian grasp of mullahcracy.
2)Biden and others may whine that they didn’t want regime change: no they still do and will continue to try and change regimes that don’t suit their long term plans for division of world into zones of socio-economic and military spheres of dominance.
3) what they wanted to change in Afghanistan was prevent modernisation and prevent weakening of the Islamist infrastructure in that fatal blindfold of Atlanticist fratricidal obsession with bringing Russia down (while Russ desperately sought to be European and not Asian).
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31 Aug
1) all self proclaimed “activists ag Islamophobia” absorb lying and imagining history from jihadi toolkit: but this one pretends that Pakistan does not “occupy” parts of “Kashmir”. For him Pak is not occupier as it’s Islamist. But his history is as funny as Islamist chronicles.
2) if only he had stuck to gloating on US he cd hv got away with it, but he had to step into 19th c. France “ending” with 1903 and Vietnam in 1975. He carefully forgot end of illegal and military British occupation of many parts of the world including India in the same century.
3) in each of his itches ag US, he carefully forgets that unlike Brits, US didnt impose an US gov in Iraq, Vietnam, AFG. In each case it went in on invitation of a “native” gov against a regional adversary. It was NVietnam which mounted an invasion of an independent neighbour.
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