Thread by @Saintonge235

Part two and three of my response: Young approaches issues differently than I. I start with a piece of moral wisdom: " 'Ought' implies 'can'." If you can't accomplish something, then it's pointless to say you ought to do it. So I ask what can realistically be accomplished.

https://twitter.com/CathyYoung63/status/1433709668199714823

Young claims that "almost 20%" of Pakistan's judges are women. A quick web search reveals that Pakistan became independent in 1947, but didn't have a single female judge till 1974. semanticscholar.org/paper/Women-ju…. After an additional 47 years, there are rather more female judges, but

only 17% of judges are women, very few sit in the "high courts" (around 5%), and "The majority of female judges work in certain specialized courts, such as juvenile courts and family courts," dawn.com/news/1640773. cmi.no/publications/7…, with more than 1/3 of female judges

in the family courts tandfonline.com/eprint/IRDdGka…. It has taken a human lifetime to reach this, and along the way, we also saw uppity female politician Benhazir Bhutto twice forced from the premiership, and eventually assassinated. That should give you some idea how hard it is to

change a conservative Muslim society.

But what about female #AFGHANI judges, since #Afghanistan is our ostensible subject?

From #WaPo, 2021-08-29:

So the women are for the high jump, unless they can hide in the 'stan till they are smuggled out.

In her third tweet responding to me, Young said: Third, I actually *don't* think it's a great idea to occupy countries & try to make them more liberal. But yes, I think that

despite the failures, more modernization & women's rights in Afghanistan is a good outcome that may have lasting effects."

Here, we partially agree. Being dead is VERY lasting, and a lot of Afghani women seem likely to experience death soon. But I don't find that a good outcome.

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