Short evolving thread on assumptions made by researchers:
It’s a Saturday so start with Saturn first:
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For 3067BCE, one need not say “I won’t take planetary positions into account because the year I chose does not permit it”
Any astronomer/Jyotishi will tell you that since Saturn is the slowest moving of all planets, we must take it’s position into account.
What happens if someone says that “No the planetary positions don’t matter?”
Ans: The theory collapses! astronomyofindia.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/sat…
How many verses does an astronomer need to ignore to say that “We won’t take planetary positions into account and we will just ignore Mahabharata evidence of Yuddha starting after Kaliyuga started?”
Ans: Umpteen verses ARE ignored.
If ignored, this is “belief” and NOT “science”
Now, if astronomers decide to ignore Axial Precession also and follows a model which propagates that the Sun and planets revolve around the Earth, then what should we call the theory?
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You decide. It’s not scientific and it’s not real and It’s not fact in that case.
As I said earlier, plucking a date from the sky and then just saying that the war must occur in that year is unfortunately not going to cut it.
That’s basically an assumption based, non reproducible model for Mahabharata
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For new followers: a few points of victory for #3067BCE: 1. Solar eclipse of #3067BCE present 2. Lunar eclipse of Kartika Purnima before war as Vyasa says 3. War start and end point Nakshatras correct 3067BCE
4.Balarama’s pilgrimage start and end point Nakshatras perfect 3067BC
Contd: Victory points #3067BCE 5. First Pushya of Mission of Peace timeline for Duryodhan with verse perfect NOT mixed with second Pushya. 6. Second Pushya of Balarama’s pilgrimage start and Krishna with Pandavas leaving for Kurukshetra perfect with no mix up of verses!
7. Tithi of War timeline perfect: taking into account 60 verses + of Drona Parva chapter 159/161 and not ignoring as a conflicting observation. 8. Tithi of Pilgrimage timeline perfect: taking into account Shalya Parva verses not mixing them up!
The mistakes made by team #5561BCE falsifying Veda Vyasa’s Shabda Pramanas of 58days maximum for Bhisma Moksha, extending it to 98 days thereby falsifying the other Shabda Pramanas stating Magha masa for Moksha takes some beating in terms of blunders.
👇🏻 astronomyofindia.wordpress.com/2021/09/13/blu…
The following are:
Failed by 5561BCE/passed in 3067BCE
1. Magha masa for Bhisma moksha x 2 verses. 2. 58 day max for moksha. 3. Expn for 56 day for Krishna’s observation (Achar) 4. Moksha on 4th day post WS 5. Moksha not on WS. 6. Alpa Sesha dinanam verse. 7. Balarama return TL
The following are made up in 5561BCE: 1. 98 day timeline to Bhisma moksha as a scribal error. 2. Balarama’s pilgrimage reversal of nakshatras.
Finally:
Passed by 5561BCE/passed in 3067BCE
27 days for banks of Ganga.
A Short Thread on the major mistaken assumptions made in 5561BCE for Bhisma Moksha:
Mistake 1: Trying to corroborate Bhisma Moksha in Phalguna Masa when the verse chapter 153 of Anushasan Parva, verse 28 refers to Magha Masa explicitly.
👇🏻 astronomyofindia.wordpress.com/2021/09/13/blu…
Mistake 2 #BhismaMoksha 5561BCE
Assuming 98 or 92 days to the timeline from the time Bhisma fell (9th war day) or from when the war began, when the verse chapter 153 of Anushasan Parva, verse 27 refers to a maximum of 58 nights only.
No attempt is made to resolve this in 5561BCE
Mistake 3: #BhismaMoksha theory 5561BCE
Assuming 50 extra nights from a shloka chapter 153 of Anushasan Parva, (verse 5) to be added to the timeline to Bhisma Moksha without deciding whether there is another logical explanation possible.
Short thread Japa:
Ideally one should use a japa mala. Don’t cross Meru. Don’t use index finger. This is true as far as anusthanas go.
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For general practice of someone does not like counting, one can use a timer. ie: 7 mins is 108, so 21 mins is 3 malas. 63 mins is 9 malas, etc
At least one source gives:
“andmamadhyamakramya japam kuryyat tu manasam madhyama
madhyama kramya japam kuryyadupamsukam tarjjanirh
tu samakramya japam naiva tu karayet”
Which finger to use is based on Tattwas
Some older Gurus say that using index also increases pride.
Index finger is Vayu tattwa, ring is Prithvi.
The japa using index is discouraged for various reasons. 1. Index finger is Vayu tattwa. Use in japa decreases grounding and can cause Vata to be affected. 2. Ring is Prithwi Tattwa and use promotes the base stable tattwa.
Thread on #Janmashtami2021 from Mission of Peace to last day of war.
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Mission of Peace timeline:
Only possible in 3067BCE (-3066)
Start of Krishna’s Mission of Peace:
Sept 26th 3067BCE: Revati Nakshatra and Kartika
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Arrival at Hastinapur 3 days later:
It can only be Bharani at arrival Krittika at night.
Kartika Purnima 1st Lunar eclipse BEFORE WAR! Vyasa meets Dhritarashtra BEFORE WAR starts in these verses:
29th Sept Night! Lunar eclipse at Kartika Purnima exact acc to text
Only in 3067BCE: 5th Oct
6th day from arrival in Hastinapur Sabha: Duryodhan rejects peace on Pushya Nakshatra and tells kings to go towards Kurukshetra.
Chapter 148:03 of Udyoga Parva
Common mistake others made:
This is NOT THE SAME PUSHYA as Balarama’s pilgrimage start!
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Purva Bhadrapada is more intense, it is associated with fire and with funeral pyres too.
Note too, the Moonrise is at NIGHT at 823PM when the waning phase (Krishna Paksha) has just started.
Good day for Daridra Dukha haran Stotra with Shiva abhisheka.
Chandrastama for Karka/Simha
The NIGHT Moonrise at 823PM when the waning phase (Krishna Paksha) has just started is an indication of how late the waning phase must be on the 14th war night post the killing of Ghatotkach… when the Moon rose in the EAST:
👇🏻 astronomyofindia.wordpress.com/2021/08/07/cal…
The 14th war night is a Krishna Ekadashi since war starts again post Moonrise with 3/15 of the night remaining according to chapter161:1-2 of Drona Parva, so Moonrise around 2:20AM or so or K11. Please note it can never be 96 minutes earlier than this. ie. it cannot be K Navami:)