Basic blunders in Astronomy are made in this single post by Shri @NileshOak ji
Mahabharata text specifies that Balarama goes from Pushya Nakshatra and returns on Shravana Nakshatra on war day 18 -Shalya 33:5-6
Shri Oak insists that he goes from Shravana and returns on Pushya- SS2
Thus Team 5561BCE has changed the basic reference in the Mahabharata text. It’s not misinterpretation, they have actually changed the textual reference!
A short film shows more
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As astronomers know, a waning phase Moon MUST rise at night.
Here, Drona 161-1 shows that time from Moonrise to sunrise is known as 3/15ths of the night, then the 14th war night Moon CANNOT be a full Moon. It’s late waning phase only, rising around 4/15ths of the night remaining.
What about a dust storm?
The direction of the Moonrise comes in handy-East
Team 5561BCE claims that a dust storm hides an earlier Moonrise.. BUT they forgot that Moon also moves in 8-10 hours from any possible Moonrise… it’s moved to the West! 😂😂
The chapter of Drona Parva 159 and 161:1-2 from the Critical Edition have basically made sure that Team 5561BCE didn’t succeed in the attempt to fudge the Moonphases!
(A reminder that this is Indian history and not a joke that is being played out here on Twitter)
Question arises, when the Moonphases of the 14th war night of Ghatotkacha’s killing are clearly the late waning phase, which Moonphases are being quoted by Shri Oak in support of his theory?
You will be shocked to know that these are Analogies (Upamanas) not Observations! Yup!
Another way of looking at this Moonrise is to check the time distance between the Moonrise and the following Sunrise:
This is what actually happens from 14th war night to 18th day of war.
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Moon and the Sun are coming closer in the same part of the sky!
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The assertion that Kaliyuga arrived on the last day of the war + it is a Pushya Nakshatra is FALSE! It’s completely nonsensical.
There is a reference for the last day of the war which coincides with Balarama’s pilgrimage last day! It is Shravana Nakshatra NOT Pushya.
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@JaipurDialogues, when the reference is clearly saying that Balarama’s pilgrimage starts on Pushya Nakshatra, then one MUST take end point as Shravana Nakshatra as the verse says.
BTW, the distance between Pushya and Shravana is 42 days!
WHY?
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Did anyone see this next level blunder?
Or is this yet another “conflicting observation”?
👇🏻 Kartika Purnima in war timeline of 5561BCE occurs much before it in the text! FACT!
The Real Moonphase data is in the form of a late night Moonrise in the Mahabharata text after which 3/15th of the night remains when fighting resumes.
Manual Calculation = 14th war night is a Krishna Ekadashi only. Waning crescent!
This means that the last war day MUST be an Amavasya and the first war day MUST be S13, Shukla Trayodashi.
These are simple math calculations.
I have allowed <1/15th night extra to elapse from Moonrise taking into account preparation time to fight.
Only 3067BCE replicates this!
Now, we also know that the last war day from afternoon/evening onwards must be Shravana Nakshatra, because that is when Balarama’s pilgrimage return is. This means the first war day must be a Mrigashira Nakshatra.
In fact, even -1 = Rohini Nakshatra for day 1 is difficult.
It is rare to come across a theory like 3067BCE.
While I know how late Dr Achar arrived at this date (intersection of Mars retrograde and Saturn Aldebaran positions), this year is the only year in which the 212+ references have any hope of fitting.
👇🏻 academia.edu/42657451/3067B…
But the question still remains, how did Dr Raghavan, a great professor of Mathematics from Chennai university ever come to 3067BCE?
I think I know how.
I was told that he is connected to Satagopa (in one of my workshops, one of Nammalwar’s descendants is present and agrees)
My surmise is that, 3067BCE, is present in some ancestor record of Nammalwar.
That is the reason, I feel that Dr Raghavan came to this date.
I have tested dozens of dates to see if the references fit the way they should.
Not one other date comes even within 20-30% of 3067BCE.
Surya Siddhanta no doubt shows that Hindu astronomy/trigonometry was one of the earliest to develop but that does not mean that it got things correct….
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For eg:
The text treats earth as a stationary globe around which sun, moon and five planets orbit.
The next claim in Surya Siddhanta is that planets have apparent sizes, the same as globes with diameter 37.5 (Saturn), 45 (Mercury) 52.5 (Jupiter) and 60 yojanas (Venus)
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We know this to be incorrect as well.
The author (s) obviously derive it in an arithmetic sequence.
Wrong!!
This point was well known to the maker of Jhora software and that’s one of the reasons its put only for research purposes...
When it’s getting so many things wrong..... no point in using it unless one wants to see what mistakes were made by them...
Now that the war/pilgrimage timelines are PROVEN as failed in 5561BCE, let’s see Bhisma Moksha
Following are:
Failed by 5561BCE/passed in 3067BCE
1Magha masa for Bhisma moksha x 2 verses.
258 day max for moksha.
3Explanation for 56 day for Krishna’s observation. (Achar)
The following are:
Failed by 5561BCE/passed in 3067BCE
1Magha masa for Bhisma moksha x 2 verses.
258 day max for moksha.
3Explanation for 56 day for Krishna’s observation. (Original timeline of Dr Achar)
4Moksha on 4th day post WS
5Moksha not on WS.
When someone does NOT get the start of the timeline correct (because of mistaken Amavasya start to war), how can that person/theory get Bhisma Moksha correct?
👇🏻 astronomyofindia.wordpress.com/2021/09/13/blu…
1. Dear @NileshOak please don’t fool yourself that the first day of the war is an Amavasya.
It is NOT, because a Full Moon CANNOT rise at night in the EAST.
Chapter 9 (sample table) clarifies that ur Moonphases are analogies NOT observations!
2. Shri @nileshoak Regarding the 14th war night:
A full Moon can NEVER rise in the Eastern sky so late at night. It’s a LATE waning phase Moon which rises at night in the East!
This means your ENTIRE WAR timeline is WRONG. It’s back to front!
👇🏻 astronomyofindia.wordpress.com/2021/08/07/cal…
3. Those who are shocked that something like this can happen, that team 5561BCE is not showing Moonphases but showing ANALOGIES as observations should see the 2 timelines : war and pilgrimage failed in the following short video:turn on audio