Thread by @TheUfoJoe

1 #ufotwitter Not everybody has time 2 listen 2 every interview so that's where I come in. I can't cover all but always try 2 make time for @LueElizondo

Lue: After 180 Day Report, what happened is the government's worst nightmare: Congress got a taste of the (#ufo) information

https://twitter.com/OmniTalkRadio/status/1444701553408024583

2 Lue: and said, "This report is good but it's insufficient. So, guess what? We want a report now every 90 Days" and "we want a report on everything that you haven't reported on, to us, yet, in these reports. That's a pretty big deal.

3 Lue: "We finally have these elements within the gov't that really want disclosure, they really want the answers. And they're beginning...the antibodies are forming inside the gov't, & I think those voices (the ones within the system/gov't who are against disclosure) [are]

4 Lue: "are now becoming a minority resistance." And now, it's not just people like @marcorubio, but now you have folks like Congressman @timburchett & many others, "that are stepping up to the plate & saying, 'You know what? I want answers & I want them now!' And so the system

5 Lue: "is finally beginning to work." Lue suggests the UFO community champion the folks (in Congress) who HAVE stepped out. That will give, "an audience to the those people that are in the shadows that wanna come out but they'e not quite sure if they really wanna come out yet bc

6 Lue: they saw what happened to me & they saw what happened to a few other folks."

So, things are changing and Lue hopes the UFO community realizes, "there is a core group of individuals in our gov't that are really wanting to see change in a meaningful way" & those are the

7 Lue: types of folks we need to be supporting & we should ask them, "Hey, we're here to help. What can we do?"

Lue: "The Man," that we all envision as being within The Government, & that doesn't want disclosure, is now more of, "just a...kind of a bully kid."

8 Lue mentions IG evaluation & various inquiries being carried out in a very proactive & transparent way & how that will all be made public @ some point. Change is coming & it's happening.

Lue 2 UFO community: Realize the evil Death Star, aka, The US Gov't, is not a Death Star.

9 Lue: There are factions within the gov't that really want to do the right thing for the American taxpayer & we're beginning to see that.

Church: Is the lack of media coverage, since the 180 Report came out, the system getting their way? (WHAT?)

Lue: "Noooo. No, no, no, no.

10 Lue: "That's something we call battle fatigue." Over-saturation of a topic occurs & people get bored bc they're not getting immediate results they want or expect.

(Look @ various factions of #ufotwitter & you'll c this. Lue is writing a book? He's in it just for the money!)

11 (You'll get more bad takes like that as time goes on. A lot of people lack patience)

Lue: During the lulls, that's when most of the work is being done & it comes in waves. Example: 2017, NYT article & then nothing for a while. Then a few years later, they admit vids r legit

12 Lue: and now we have Congress involved. Lulls give us the ability for meaningful stuff to take place behind the scenes, w/o the white, hot spotlight shining down. And that allows things to percolate & mature. And when they DO mature, these things will be very significant.

13: Lue: And when it makes it out into the public sphere, people are going to say, "Holy smokes! Actually, a lot more was happening during that quiet time than during all the time when we had all that noise going on."

(I can attest 2 that. Patience. Various things ARE going on)

14 Church: Are we going to run thru a 90-Day cycle in trying to get the media back behind this? (Does JC really not understand the media whatsoever?)

Lue: "No, no, no. Absolutely not. Mainstream media is just waiting in the shadows. They're just waiting for another juicy tidbit

15 Lue: "& they're going 2B all over this. And u wanna make sure u give them the right, juicy tidbit." The info. needs 2B vetted, accurate, not classified & we need 2 make sure nobody gets in trouble.

(U wanna know why Corbell hasn't released more vids? Read that last sentence)

16 Lue: "The last thing u ever wanna do is provide out some half-baked information & it turns out working against you. Where you say, 'Oh, there's this tremendous UAP incident.' Where it turns out, in reality, meh, you know what? It was a balloon. And that happens all the time."

17 Lue: I always said this is marathon, not a sprint. We've come a lot further in 3 years than we ever have before. "But, if ur really that impatient, look, check out & go take up the violin, go take up the piano, go pick up a hobby & maybe check back in 2 years, 3 years, 5 years

18 Lue "& see where we are"

(A-F**king-Men!)

Lue: If u look @ this in comparison to the UAP discussion over last 70 years, "I don't know how someone can't look @ the last 3 years & say, 'Yeah, we are significantly further down the playing field than we ever have been before'"

19 Church: is it possible the ones who oppose disclosure will come up with a counter attack?

Lue: "Of course. That's exactly what some of the elements are waiting for. They're waiting for someone to slip up & provide some information that hasn't been fully vetted & basically

20 Lue: "be able to prove it's bogus. We have 2B deliberate. We can't let our excitement & our zeal get the best of us, where now, all of a sudden, we cry wolf." There's an old military saying. "If it feels like ur easily winning, it's probably an ambush ur walking into."

21: Lue: "First & foremost, we wanna do things in a legally correct manner. We don't wanna get anybody in trouble, no one going 2 jail (once again think about this when u complain that Corbell & Knapp r taking "forever" to release new video or pics or whatever. Protect sources).

22 Lue: We don't want anybody losing their clearances. If things r vetted & done properly, "every time something comes out, it's movement forward that we will never have to give up that ground again."

(Church mentions released/leaked pics & vids, Knapp & fails 2 mention Corbell)

23 (Church has repeatedly downplayed the leaked videos Corbell has released as prosaic objects. IMO, Church is clueless on this)

Church mentions how others could try to come out & explain away all of these videos/pieces of evidence, including the Tic Tac (FLIR1) vid.

24 Lue: "There is an effort to do that right now with the three videos, I'll tell you that much. And there's efforts to say, 'Oh, these are balloons or whatever.' Let's remind, though, your audience for one moment, that when I was in AATIP, we were working with certain offices,

25 Lue: "and he said, 'Lue, we haven't a freaking clue what these are.' Furthermore, when the DoD itself, released the videos & said, 'Yes, these are actually DoD videos, our stamp of approval, & they actually depict UAP & we have no idea what they are," do u think for one moment

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27 Twitter stopped me at 25 tweets in the thread so I'll pick up again in a little bit. They've never done that until recently. Thanks for the new supporters!

28 Lue: "when the DoD itself, released the videos & said, 'Yes, these are actually DoD videos, our stamp of approval, & they actually depict UAP & we have no idea what they are,' do u think for one moment that they didn't go BACK to some of these other organizations & say,

29 Lue: "'OK, look, we're about to put this statement out. Are u REALLY, REALLY sure we don't know what these are? Because we're about to put the Secretary of Defense, by the way, on notice to say, for the record, that the very best of the best, we have no idea what these are.'

30 Lue: "And, of course, the answer that came back is a big zero. So yes...so of course there's an attempt to come by and obfuscate and later on say, 'Meh, prosaic, balloons, seagulls, whatever the excuse du jour is.' But, one has to look at this from the long-game perspective.

32 Lue: "Look at ALL the data that's been presented, look at everything that has happened over the last three years and THEN make an informed decision. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, & flies like a duck, chances are, it's not a Cadillac. It's a duck.

33 Lue: "Congress has been provided the classified briefings & if you think all they've been briefed on was FLIR & Go Fast & Gimbal, you've been living on another planet. No, that's not the case. They've been given much better fidelity information. That's an indicator!

34 Lue: "In my line of work in intelligence, that's a huge indicator. Politicians don't come out for the record, who, by the way, tend, by nature, to be risk averse, put their credibility and possibly, not only their reputation, but their election on the line, to talk about UFOs!

35 Lue: "Unless they have enough information that's compelling enough to say, 'Hey, guess what? These damn things are real!'"

36 Church: Would DoD use the same tactics that were used to attack your credibility to go are folks like Fravor, @DietrichVFA41, @kevinda89396261 & @GaryVoorhis?

Lue: "No, there's too many. Absolutely not. There's too many of them. I was an easy target bc I was in OUSDI which,

37 Lue: "by the way, now owns the [UAP] Task Force again, right? So hmm, surprise, surprise. So there are some people in there who have always made it very clear that they did not like me very much. You can see that I worked there and the IG (Inspector General) is very well aware

38 Lue: "of what's going on. So, it was easy for a couple of those legacy people 2 attack me. They were not anticipating all these other service members coming out. Wait until it gets public that there are certain pilots that I would bring in 2 brief the Secretary's senior staff.

39 Lue: "I mean, that's real, that actual happened. The only reason @60Minutes (@BillWhitakerCBS @grahammessick) ran the story, because they were really scared, was because someone called [former Secretary of Defense, James] Mattis & Mattis was like, 'Yeah, that's the guy.'"

40 Lue: I won't hold entire DoD responsible bc, "there's only a couple of individuals that are truly responsible. And by the way, this story is still evolving. Just wait 'til what happens in the next, let's say, 3 to 6 months & people come out & like, 'Oh man. I didn't know that.

41 Lue: "'You mean, so & so actually was w/Lue, briefing senior, Secretary of Defense officials on this topic? Huh! Well, we never know that before!' Well, guess what? Now you do."

Obvious follow up from Church here is w/the "60 Minutes" & Mattis reveal. That didn't happen. 🙃

42 Church says he can see the Navy, Air Force, etc. sending a message to its service members: Don't even think about discussing any of this.

Lue: "I don't wanna get political here (but about to!), but don't look now, but the fact that the U.S. government has abandoned some of

43 Lue: "it's own people right now, in a particular country (Why not just say what we all know ur talking about? Afghanistan), as it's unfolding [and] the world is witnessing this. Make no mistake: They will obfuscate. And there are elements within the U.S. gov't that will leave

44 Lue: "our guys abandoned. They will absolutely do it .(Well, since Biden made the decision as the Commander in Chief, what elements are Lue referencing?) But you know what, there's also elements, whom I happen to know every well, that are doing the opposite. And they're

45 Lue: "saying, 'Screw you, we're gonna do what's right. We're gonna go in & we're gonna take our people our of there."

(I would love for Lue to explain what he means. Is he saying folks are ignoring orders from higher ups (chain of command?) or from commander in chief (Biden)

46 (bc it's the right thing to do? What elements? I would think maybe he's talking about @glennbeck but he said elements & was referencing elements within our gov't. If doing the right thing is the standard, then why not share more UFO information that's important for the world?)

47 (Just say, "Screw you!" to the folks wanting to keep this info. from humanity & the folks who have it locked up in USAPs w/o proper oversight? And I'm not saying Lue should share classified info. but there ARE things he can share that would b enlightening & is not classified)

48 Lue: "It's the same type of mentality here. I think a lot of these people u mentioned, like Alex Dietrich & Dave Fravor & @chad_vfa41, all these folks, these are warriors, man, & some of the finest that we have. If u think they're just gonna roll over & take it, you're crazy.

49 Lue: "These r not those kind of people. U don't do that publicly bc the amount of backlash u would get from a military community who had the privilege of serving w/America's finest & these heroes...if the gov't were 2 come out & do that, there'd probably be riots on the

50 Lue: "streets, to be honest w/you."

(I'm not so sure about that. How many people in gov't took a chance, came out & stood up for Lue? Zero? Shots have been taken @ Fravor, Dietrich, & others. Who (in gov't or military) came to their defense besides #ufotwitter? Nobody.

52 (Hell, one of the folks who attacked @hughespj1, @GaryVoorhis, @kevinda89396261, @jasonturner2 was Fravor himself! So color me skeptical on what Lue said there. The UFO community & #ufotwitter would stand up, as we've stood up for the last 3.5 years. But others? Hmm...)

53 Church rightly points out that the UFO community WOULD speak up if any shenanigans were tried by the DoD or elements within gov't.

Lue: "They are already in hot water for deleting my emails. There is a court order, there is an absolute protection order that has been out for

54 Lue: "some time that has said, 'You cannot delete certain emails involving this.' And u know what? They did. And they are in serious hot water for that, they're scrambling, they don't know how to deal with it. And wait until the IG sinks their teeth into THAT! Now, of course,

55 Lue: "we both know my emails aren't really gone, they've never really gone. But the fact that he (who's "he"?) would even say something like that is TOTALLY ridiculous & preposterous.

Church: Could the DoD magically discover the missing emails? Lue: That's possible.

56 Lue: For their sake, I hope that's the case bc I love my beloved DoD & they're not doing themselves any favors by doing this. The last 3 years have been a complete debacle and they have flip flopped about eleven times and the public optics aren't good.

57 Lue: The DoD is losing credibility on UFOs, Afghanistan, Covid, climate change, etc. "It's just been a huge train wreck, they can't seem 2 get their act straight on ANYTHING." I don't want 2 add fuel to the fire🔥 & I'd like to offer them a solution to get out of this pickle.

58 Lue: "It pains my heart to see this but they've kind of painted themselves into a corner for decades and they've gotta figure out a way to get out of it."

Church: If it's every 90 Days, are we expecting an update on September 25th?

59 Lue: No. "That clock starts [ticking] probably Fiscal Year 2022, which begins, technically, October 1st. And, of course, there's gonna be claims we need funding & bc of the continuing resolution in Congress. Funding probably won't be available until maybe November or December.

60 Lue: "And, of course, that's when the clock would start. So I don't want to mislead your listeners thinking, 'Oh my gosh, now, every 90 days, starting last June, we're gone get reports.' Not necessarily. This reports are due to Congress, they can ask for extensions, they may

61 Lue: "classified. We may get a whole lot, "we don't know, we don't know, we don't know," every 90 days. It's certainly a big step in the right direction but we're nowhere near the finish line."

Church: How will we know if the classified report was delivered to Congress?

62 Lue: "Because Congress will tell you." He thinks folks like Rubio, Burchett & Reid will tell the American people they have the report & "here's what I can tell you." That's their job. We have enough legislators now that we've reached critical mass. They genuinely wanna know

63: Lue: and so do their constituents, who are writing letters and asking, "Hey, what the hell is going on?" Congress is, "not deaf to this and they are doing the right thing for America, for sure. There's genuine interest & concern. There are several, parallel efforts underway

64 Lue: "to make sure Congress remains fully informed."

I will do a YT video with my extended reactions to this. probably tomorrow. I'll do it live if folks wanna chime in with questions on ANYTHING.

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