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Is it time to move beyond net zero emissions & start discussing net negative emissions?

Why? To allow developing countries to reach net zero later (fairness) & help them escape poverty while still limiting warming to 1.5°C.

@aniruddh_mohan sciencedirect.com/science/articl…

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The carbon budget for 1.5°C is depleting rapidly, with a large share used by today’s developed countries.

Even if developed countries mitigate fast, the carbon space remaining for developing countries is minuscule.

(also see cicero.oslo.no/no/posts/cicer…)

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If global CO₂ emissions stay at net zero, either:
* All countries need to be net zero ~2050, or
* Rich countries have net negative emissions post-2050, allowing developing countries to emit longer post-2050.

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If the world exceeds the 1.5°C carbon budget, then global net negative CO₂ emissions are required to return back to 1.5°C.

In this case, the net negative emissions reverse previous warming rather than allowing fairness (though, both are possible).

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Our scenarios are illustrative & selected to highlight choices, but they clearly show the flexibility for developing countries if the OECD and China get to net zero earlier and ultimately maintain net negative emissions.

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There are risks, obviously.

Developed countries have delayed adequate climate action for the past two decades, there is a real prospect of net-negative emissions turning into a never-ending promise of paying back initial “carbon debt” sometime later.

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Developing countries must therefore be wary of moving from demanding immediate and steep emission reductions to shifting attention toward Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR).

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The demand for net negative emissions from developed countries needs to be stated.

If a developing countries pledges net-zero emissions post-2050, then to be consistent with 1.5°C it may have to depend on net negative emissions from developed countries, even if not stated.

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There has been increasing attention on the need for CDR, either as a way to balance residual emissions or to undo previous warming.

There has been much less discussion on CDR as a way to facilitate fairness.

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There have been hefty critiques of net zero in the past year, but maybe a shift from net zero to net negative and fairness shifts the focus?

(also see rdcu.be/b0jAr)

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With this new article, we hope to begin that discussion, while noting the risks that the discussion involves.

So, get discussing…

sciencedirect.com/science/articl…

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And here is a link with 50 days access sciencedirect.com/science/articl…

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Did you know that 30% of cumulative CO₂ emissions are from land-use change?

If the starting point is 1750 or earlier, this share just goes up.

essd.copernicus.org/articles/12/32…

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Another factoid. Half of global CO₂ emissions in 1950 were from land-use change. That is not so long ago!

The declining share of land-use change in the total is not because the world ended deforestation, but coal, oil, & gas grew.

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CO₂ emissions from land-use change are incredibly uncertain. Uncertainty is 50% or more.

There are also definition issues in what is defined as anthropogenic (what is a carbon sink?).

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"Instead of leaving such work to volunteers, global institutions should marshal the funding & expertise to collect crucial data, & mandate their publication"

💯agree with @_HannahRitchie. No one wants to fund the giant who's shoulders we stand on.

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nature.com/articles/d4158…
The approach to science is to fund big models, expensive observations, etc. All this is needed, but somehow science seems to have forgotten the importance careful curation & maintenance of data.
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It is a top day for a top ten day...

We often do plots of the top emitters, especially for fossil CO₂ emissions. But, what about other GHGs? Is it the same distribution of top emitters?

We need a thread for that...

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CO₂ emissions from net LUC (one bookkeeping model). These are net numbers, some countries are net sources, others net sinks.

Current LUC sources are concentrated in several developing countries (the rich countries cut their forests down long ago).

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agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.10…
Don't over interpret the LUC numbers.

Different LUC datasets give different numbers. Here is the FAO data (from 2020). Indonesia is much less important in this dataset, Brazil dominates.

There is a lot of uncertainty at the country level, so be careful.

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#ClimateTwitter Direct Air Capture (DAC)

In 2011, Rob Socolow estimated that 1MtCO₂/yr DAC would require a contact structure with height 10m & length of 5km.

Is that still the case?

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aps.org/policy/reports…
If I look at these pictures of Climeworks Orca via @EdgarHertwich

The height is ~3m, the length ~10m, & 4 units
Area: 120m² for 4000tCO₂/yr
Or: 30,000m² for 1MtCO₂/yr (120/4*1000)

If 10m high (Socolow), then contact structure ~3km long.



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This is rather crude, but is quite similar to the original Socolow estimate. If true, this is fascinating…

If contact structure is 10m high, then 1MtCO₂/yr requires 3-5km structure

1GtCO₂/yr requires 3-5000km
5GtCO₂/yr requires 15-25,000km

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Perhaps the most (in)famous climate paper in recent times only came about because @MLiebreich provoked 90% of #ClimateTwitter with #RCP85isBollox, laying the foundation for this paper with @hausfath & myself
nature.com/articles/d4158…
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I suspect the trouble paper with @KevinClimate was heavily influenced by debates on Twitter science.org/doi/abs/10.112…

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CO₂ emissions come from conversion (cutting down or growing a tree).

There is also a 'sink', soaking up CO₂ we previously emitted.

What should be reported as CO₂ emissions?

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It is really rather complex. The reason the 'sink' is included in emission accounting, is that it is difficult to determine what is 'anthropogenic'.

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carbonbrief.org/guest-post-cre…

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