@kcz100 @MonaRahalkar @thackerpd @amymaxmen @alisonannyoung @Ayjchan @R_H_Ebright @FilippaLentzos Kathrin Summermatter, about a possible research-related accident:

“I consider this very unrealistic, a classic conspiracy theory.”

“Ich erachte das als sehr unrealistisch, eine klassische Verschwörungstheorie.”

headtopics-com.translate.goog/ch/stammt-das-…
@kcz100 @MonaRahalkar @thackerpd @amymaxmen @alisonannyoung @Ayjchan @R_H_Ebright @FilippaLentzos Kathrin:

“China has had a very high level of high security laboratories for over ten years. They have frequent inspections and very strict safety standards.”
@kcz100 @MonaRahalkar @thackerpd @amymaxmen @alisonannyoung @Ayjchan @R_H_Ebright @FilippaLentzos “During the Sars epidemic in 2004, employees were infected outside a laboratory. As a result, the biosecurity of laboratories in China has been greatly improved.”

Well, at least we know where Kathrin stands.
Great addition to the SAGO team, no doubt.
@kcz100 @MonaRahalkar @thackerpd @amymaxmen @alisonannyoung @Ayjchan @R_H_Ebright @FilippaLentzos Again, Kathrin Summermatter parotting Peter Daszak in 1815.ch/news/wallis/ak…
"With every new virus, the first hypothesis is that it could have come from a laboratory. However, these speculations are insignficant, they are typical conspiracy theories."
@kcz100 @MonaRahalkar @thackerpd @amymaxmen @alisonannyoung @Ayjchan @R_H_Ebright @FilippaLentzos And again:
"There are also supposed experts who want to establish themselves and jump on the corona train by spreading theories that have not been tested."
"Scientific data shows that the starting point of the corona epidemic is an animal market in Wuhan"
www-1815-ch.translate.goog/news/wallis/ak…
@kcz100 @MonaRahalkar @thackerpd @amymaxmen @alisonannyoung @Ayjchan @R_H_Ebright @FilippaLentzos Now Kathrin is the only biosafety expert on SAGO - and she has made her mind about the origins - no doubt whatsoever, while ignoring all the data that show that a research-related accident is fully plausible.

SAGO is not just about Covid-19 but about future pandemics.
@kcz100 @MonaRahalkar @thackerpd @amymaxmen @alisonannyoung @Ayjchan @R_H_Ebright @FilippaLentzos Sadly, it even gets worse - weirdly worse:

"But if such documents are not available, that does not mean that work is being done worse"

(Question: Any COI on being paid for these inspection jobs in China?)
@kcz100 @MonaRahalkar @thackerpd @amymaxmen @alisonannyoung @Ayjchan @R_H_Ebright @FilippaLentzos Then it gets plainly ridiculous.
Has she ever studied the SARS lab-acquired-infections and the Beijing-Anhui lab-outbreak of 2003-04?

Of all the biosafety experts, SAGO had to pick up that one.
@FilippaLentzos @alisonannyoung @R_H_Ebright @JamieMetzl
@kcz100 @MonaRahalkar @thackerpd @amymaxmen @alisonannyoung @Ayjchan @R_H_Ebright @FilippaLentzos @JamieMetzl Same logic in Die Neue Zeitung:
If there is a risk of being infected, you definitely stay at home and isolate yourself first - and the staff, who are usually well trained, know that. She considers it extremely unlikely that a pandemic of this magnitude originated in a laboratory.

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17 Oct
Take the same compromised people, add a few more, find a biosafety expert that lauds the excellent biosafety of Chinese labs and decries ‘typical conspiracy theories’, sugar coat it with a few neutral names and you have a SAGO cake. dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1…
A cake with a near null dose of honest biosafety expertise (1 in 26), but a fat dose of EcoHealth devotees with a fully formed and reliable opinion as to the necessary zoonotic origins of COVID-19.

Here are Fisher and Koopmans (both in SAGO) having a good laugh at critics.
Watch the video - it's edifying.
Read 13 tweets
15 Oct
It is amazing to see how the NY Times and no less than Nature have been distorting the significance of the BANAL BatCovs found in Laos.
@carlzimmer @SmritiMallapaty
nytimes.com/2021/10/14/sci…
Both articles have left the scientific domain for the opinions one - if not the political opinions one - by asserting that the Laos BANAL BatCoV finds reinforce the zoonotic origin hypothesis.
nature.com/articles/d4158…
Now let's cut through the noise and go back to the horse mouth, Marc Eloit the main author of that paper - from the Institut Pasteur.

On the key issue of the absence of the not-banal-at-all FCS in all the BANAL BatCoVs:
"It is possible that it was acquired in a lab"
@Ayjchan
Read 15 tweets
15 Oct
Another good article by ⁦@ParkSuAm1996⁩ and ⁦@simonelmc

Science turns nasty in Covid-19 origins argument on Twitter | South China Morning Post archive.is/2021.10.14-234…
Jesse Bloom:
“I no longer think it’s a conspiracy theory that the furin cleavage site could have been engineered,”

He also added that he was “stunned” to see the DARPA proposal and questioned why the scientists involved didn’t come forward to disclose it earlier.
Holmes said that it was “staggeringly inept” for Peter Daszak, the head of EcoHealth Alliance, and the scientists involved in the DARPA application to not have made it public “when everyone is looking for transparency”
Read 5 tweets
14 Oct
Please see an English translation of that great article in the Express:
@yohanblavignat
bit.ly/3lJ694A
By the way I had a good laugh at the 60 minutes story about Daszak in Tioman.

They make it sound like it is in the middle of nowhere, even saying that it is 'West of Borneo' when it is actually directly of the coast of peninsular Malaysia.
I went diving there in the 90s like so many tourists in Asia.

It's rather easy to go there: there is a little airport (short landing or you hit the hill!) and then you take a boat to your beach.
Read 5 tweets
14 Oct
"Nous pensons que la mission d'EcoHealth Alliance est importante pour les générations actuelles et futures, mais qu'elle ne pourra se faire de façon éthique et responsable avec Peter Daszak à sa tête",

Virginie Courtier, directrice de recherche CNRS
lexpress.fr/actualite/scie…
"[Comment] EcoHealth Alliance s'est transformée, sous la férule de son président, en quelques années d'une association écologiste bien tranquille en un récipient de fonds fédéraux pour des projets qui peuvent souvent intéresser le ministère de la Défense..."
"[Daszak] a fait preuve d'une formidable volonté de cacher des informations qui allaient à l'encontre de son récit sur une origine naturelle. J'espère qu'il sera invité à témoigner sous serment au Congrès"

Jamie Metzl, ex membre de l'adm. Clinton et ex collaborateur de Joe Biden
Read 6 tweets
14 Oct
@tommy_cleary @R_H_Ebright @thackerpd @BillyBostickson @TheSeeker268 @MonaRahalkar @alisonannyoung @ianbirrell @Muller_Lab @Nature @arambaut @joeblogs54321 @edwardcholmes @DARPA Thanks. I referred to that very article in my August 2020 probabilistic paper (with a different link, as it was jointly published with VICE news).
vice.com/en/article/9kj…
@tommy_cleary @R_H_Ebright @thackerpd @BillyBostickson @TheSeeker268 @MonaRahalkar @alisonannyoung @ianbirrell @Muller_Lab @Nature @arambaut @joeblogs54321 @edwardcholmes @DARPA Supaporn did the 2013 bat guano epiphany paper with Olival and Epstein, just after the Mojiang miners died - and without ever mentioning them.

She used old DARPA samples from 2006/7 and used DARPA Prophecy funding, + funding from a Naval Research Team.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/artic…
@tommy_cleary @R_H_Ebright @thackerpd @BillyBostickson @TheSeeker268 @MonaRahalkar @alisonannyoung @ianbirrell @Muller_Lab @Nature @arambaut @joeblogs54321 @edwardcholmes @DARPA A Naval Research Team also collected bat samples with the Pasteur Institute from Paris in Laos in 2017 - in the same places where the same Pasteur Team would sample the BANAL BatCovs in 20/21.

For that 20/21 trip they did no go there with the Naval team.
bit.ly/3FNO2T9
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