Thread by @redistrictAZ

I swear this is becoming personal. This iteration connects inside the 101 in NW Maricopa County to Mohave County and the Colorado River.. This is where Neuberg talks about retirement communities as a unique COI

This really is going from bad to worse...

BACK FROM LUNCH
* NOT YET

Ahhh - here they are...
@ndc_doug literally printing it out as we sit here --Accepted CD 6.0 - York: what changes?
Moving to LD 7.0
Tucson changes from 033 map
D17 is 6% short as imported from cit submission

Alt:D17 can take SE edge of D18 ofD17 air Force base - all three options can balance D 17

Full audit log is updated..
Mesa Changes D9 andD10 rotated

And San Tan Valley

033 map make D9and D10 - 21.2 and 6.8 spreads respectively-- D10 8:1 swing...
Lost a competitive seat --has one swing --

7.1 has everything AND
looking at Florence and Coolidge - in D 16 w/Gila Reservation - took 033 map - took 7 down to Tucson instead of D 16

Works from mapping perspective - but does itpass muster w/AIRC
Mehl - says no COI will be happy "Not wild about it"
Lerner - logical for them be together - this solution may not work. TY --

Neuberg: Sounds like consensus on 7.0
Mehl moves: York seconds -- 5:0 vote
7.0 leg plan adopted..
On D17 -what alternatives to you have

Mammoth Oracle and San Manuel
Mehl "Strongly Supports"

Neuberg: Does anyone disagree w/ Com.Mehl's proposal

Lerner - I remain concerned about D17 and Tanke Verde --Changes are needed: goal to connect Oro Valley and Marana; taken it away from Casa Adobes AND we have not made a lot of other big changes

Tanke Verde should be part of Tucson-- it's being put into D17 -- belongs in D18; map splits Tucson"interesting ways" and wrap-around
4.0 would not have req. so many changes

Really don't even know how to begin; Tucson is split 6 ways

Lerner - real concerns andI will have trouble with this map all the way forward. Want to respect my colleagues' preference here

Neuberg: What is your BIG priority?

Lerner: Let's make the change we want - w/o all the other BIG changes to go along it - instead we built a mountain out of a molehill - as we just did w/ other COI

Neuberg: the reality we have loaded own this map -let's work from here> Let's fix and mitigate the problems

York: Observes- City of Tucson is second largest - Tucsons "deserves" 6 LD seats -- and more about highways - D17 serves the mountain range - D20performs extremely well

York: I'm excited and think it serves Tucson well.

Mehl: It was way more than Marana and Oro Valley
Outskirts of Tucson do all sorts of things legislatively

I agree a closer look could be taken in some section - may not need to be done now.

Davis Monthan Air Force Base some people like that
Military groups
Lerner - I am uncomfortable waiting to hte end to confront these changes --

D17 is a crazy district

Neuberg -0 I see the arc - sometimes COI aligning different shapes - no crazy tentacles

Mehl says many people asked for this district -
Lerner - different perspectives - and wanted to be connected Tucson - difference between. Tribes - they have asked be together - Tanke Verde did not say "I want be w/ Marana"

Just one area I don't feel is a connection in metro area...

Lerner: Would we really say there is COI between Apache Junction and Glendale -My biggest prob. with these outcomes is we've made these changes w/o regard of COI.

Neuberg says it is "empirical" - I may have concerns - we may not be able to come up with a perfect map - a first glance of what the @ArizonaIRC is thinking - the real question is this a good enough starting point for you?

Watchman: Connecting Oro Valley and Marana

has created a whole new map -- this is a wholesale change to the area --
Lerner - we said we would be willing to take a look at it -- just as we have in the past -- walks through process to date --
York- 4.0 and 4.1 integrate 8 LC maj/min dist- that's why we went back 2/ 3.5

Neuberg: we are about mitigation.
Lerner: not saying 4.0 was perfect -- it did what Com. Mehl had consistently talked about - but it DID connect Marana and Oro Valley - We did not have to make all these changes toaccomodate that request

RE: Latino Coalition district - would like to look at comparison between the LC map and what this does. DO we make it better?

Perhaps we can get that in the next few days -- as a starting point lookout the VRA districts and something (?)

Mehl: Com. Lerner - This is a good map. We don't have to get the feedback in the next few days. That's what the 30 days is for..

Neuberg -what is the most efficient effective way. Debate among ourselves or take it into the public and get 1,000s of eyes on it..

Neuberg: Don't want to move back in time...
Lerner: I greatly appreciate. and am always in favor of moving forward but..... we have looked at six iterations - we agreed to test it -- IN this case we took a wholesale area from yesterday afternoon to now...

Neuberg: Reluctant to force a vote - Sounds like Com.Lerner and Watchman want significant changes to 7.0... And now confused .. We need a game plan .. Does not sound like we can get a vote today ..

Neuberg - there is a diminishing return when we debate among ourselves when we can go to the source.. I'd like assurances that we will vote

Lerner: I so appreciate that. I think there is a compromise here. There are things I just don't know. Knowing that next week

we will be ready to move on a take a vote...

Neuberg - Tuesday reg. Business meeting- can mapping join us virtually? All noon day - Thursday??

Mehl: Suggest that Com. Lerner and Watchman have an opportunity to ask for changes on Tuesday so we can review on Thursday -- not debate a lot of suggested edits
Mapping/Lerner/Watchman concur "Great Plan"

Moving onto CD plan
Call for public input - Tuesday Business Meeting 8 -- 10 am
Could the @ArizonaIRC address population balancing --
Mehl: York has to leave early on Tue Am sowings mapping decisions made early -- business pffft..
Mehl moves;York seconds- this will become 8.0

No updated reports on CD plan
Closing down for the day.
Business mtg 10/26 8am - 10 am roughly; Thur 10/28 9:30 a.m start to midnight... or however long it takes
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