Here's your Monday VAR thread, this week it includes:
- Arsenal's penalty against Villa, and VAR protocol
- Reds cards for Pogba / Saiss
- Christian Benteke disallowed goal
- Why Mathias Normann was only booked
- Brighton v Man City incidents
Starting with the Arsenal penalty itself.
Referee Craig Pawson thought Matt Targett won the ball first, before contact with Alexandre Lacazette.
But replays show it was the other way around - contact through the man to win the ball - and that's grounds for a penalty review.
So onto the VAR protocol.
I said on Friday that play should continue while a review is completed, but that's not quite right.
VAR protocol says that the referee should try to "avoid having a review after the whistle for the end of the half has been blown."
Interesting application of offside in the #UEFANationsFinal for Kylian Mbappe's winner.
It's a decision which is correct in law to allow the goal, but one which many will feel should be disallowed in the spirit of the game.
Mbappe is clearly offside when the pass is played.
Remember that being in an offside position is not an offside offence.
The point when the ball is touched by the passer purely sets each player's position relative to each other for offside.
It's what happens after this which decides if there is any offence.
This is the clause which is key to the onside decision in the Kylian Mbappe goal.
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage."
Wondering when the next edition of the UEFA Nations League is?
- Draw is on December 16
- England in pot 3 and face a very strong group
- Games played in June 2022 (x4), September 2022 (x2)
- UNL takes up the six international dates prior to the World Cup
- Finals in June 2023
England will be drawn against one team from each of these three pots to form their group.
POT 1
Belgium
France
Italy
Spain
POT 2
Portugal
Netherlands
Denmark
Germany
POT 4
Wales
Austria
Czech Republic
Hungary
Format for Euro 2024 qualifying is not yet confirmed, including any details of how teams might earn playoff spots via the Nations League.
It's likely UEFA will want playoff paths via this route, though the same method as 2020 cannot be used as Germany take an auto slot as hosts.
Welcome to another Monday VAR thread. Some protocol bits to explain around some decisions. Fill yourself with rage.
Including:
- Timo Werner disallowed goal / Ward-Prowse red
- Penalty to Leeds?
- Watford "goal"
- Tim Krul on Matej Vydra
- Liverpool v Man City incidents
Starting with Timo Werner's disallowed goal against Southampton.
This all comes down to VAR protocol and what constitutes the Attacking Phase, and is something which I particularly dislike about the process.
To begin with, Attacking Phase isn't reset by a failed clearance.
We get one of these in the Premier League every now and again but as VAR in the PL usually doesn't go back too far in the Attacking Phase, it's rare.
In other leagues fouls some way back in the Attacking Phase are penalised far more regularly.
Not too much to discuss in this week's Monday VAR thread, well until yesterday...
- Harvey Elliot challenge, Patrick Struijk red card
- Liverpool's second goal at Leeds
- Arsenal's winner at Norwich
- Crystal Palace penalty vs. Spurs
Let's start at Elland Road by covering the process behind the red card for Patrick Struijk.
Craig Pawson didn't actually give a free-kick for the challenge when it happened, so the red card came afterwards.
Many ask how he can give a red if he hasn't given a foul.
Once play was stopped for Harvey Elliot to get treatment, referee Pawson spoke to his on-field team, including Andy Madley who was 4th official and was close to the incident.
It was Pawson's decision, in conjunction with his officiating team, to show the red card.