Thread by @QOrigins

We have *definitely* reached the “bargaining” stage of JFK Watch 2021.

“They have to be safe,” explains a woman to a steadily dwindling audience in a QAnon live chat. “That’s why everything keeps changing.”

“Hold the line,” urge others.

A caller from Ireland says, “We won!”

Also: don’t be a dick in the replies. These people aren’t stupid; QAnon, like any other cult, meets their emotional needs in the short term & absolutely ruins their lives in the long term.

So: are they stupid? No. Dangerous to democracy? Yes. Victims? Kinda.

Life’s complicated.

The audience is dropping off little by little — roughly 400 people departed in about 15 minutes.

The current speaker is big into numerology, and is explaining how this is a “beautiful gift” but “people who don’t have an open heart and open mind… will never experience” it.

Now there’s a speaker who claims to be at the plaza, or to have been there this morning.

She addresses “the people who love Trump but don’t see that anything is happening.”

She directs them to a YouTube channel which, she says, shows Trump receiving honors in foreign countries.

These are proof, according to her, that those countries have submitted to Trump (and implicitly the Q Team).

It’s interesting to see people from *every* faction of QAnon putting forth the evidence that best reinforces their faith.

Next speaker says: “Be grateful!” Even if you don’t see “certain names and faces flashing across your phones,” have faith. “When’s the last time you saw Jesus Christ hanging out on your couch?” But we believe, because we have faith.

Speaker after her quotes Isaiah. Side note:

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Q person quote Isaiah about how the messiah will suffer & then link it to Trump.

This is a little bit weird! If you’d asked me what verses they’d be MOST likely to use about Trump I would quote those right along w/Cyrus & David references. And yet!

Also, I forgot to mention that the woman two speakers ago:

1) said she was a military wife in the northwest and

2) said the military threatened her husband’s life for not taking the vaccine

Also his retirement benefits, which seems a bit odd. Surely he wouldn’t need them!

The livechat’s audience crowd has dwindled to approximately 3,000 people.

The host interrupts a speaker, trying to cheer folks up:

“Can you not see Trump and Junior just sitting back right now and shaking their heads at anyone who is losing faith” when we’ve “come this far?”

The speaker who was interrupted had just offered up the classic idea that maybe this was a TEST of the followers’ faith, and the apocalypse — in this case the emergency broadcast that’s supposed to be part of the Storm — won’t arrive until enough people are worthy.

Next speaker says: “we can’t just sit here and pray about it… we gotta do something.”

Among his strategies: run for local office and “get the sheriffs — the constitutional sheriffs — on our side.”

“Constitutional sheriffs” are far-right law enforcement officers who…

It’s a whole thing. Constitutional sheriffs, so called, claim they’re the highest authority in their county & federal law enforcement can only work there at their pleasure.

Another speaker just mentioned “med beds.” I’m SO glad someone did. They’re a big part of QAnon culture.

Med beds are, basically, magical devices that can heal any illness or injury. The Q Team is supposedly going to release them to the public after the Storm.

There are a bunch of plot holes here — like, why not release them pre-election and go “Vote Trump, he cured cancer!”? But:

This fantasy, which SOUNDS benign, actually has really ugly consequences.

I’ve seen seriously sick people asking Q to release med beds (or “the cures,” bc another part of QAnon lore is that the Q team has all the cures that big pharma is suppressing).

It’s heartrending.

Like, one woman went onto 8kun and posted, essentially: I have small kids. My cancer has come back. I don’t want them to be orphaned. Please, Q, release the cures.

How can you read that, if you’re Q, and not go: “Oh no, what I’m doing is totally immoral.”?

How can you read that and not go “Oh no, I have to come clean.”?

Anyway, I mention this because the current speaker is saying that “Sharon is home” and “not feeling well.”

I believe this is the same person who came on earlier to earnestly express his hope that he would be taking his beloved Sharon “to her first med bed appointment soon.”

“We’ve spent about four years just trusting the plan,” says the next speaker.

I *believe* this is the same speaker who was hyping a QAnon influencer named Michael, because Michael has taught them gematria & they should be thankful.

Next speaker agrees: “Michael passed a very beautiful message when he was speaking… and the very last words that he said were ‘Everybody have fun.’”

“I coded that out,” she says, and it comes out to “189.” One of those numbers, she says, works out to “R.”

“We’re all hoping,” she says, “that R is Junior.”

This woman is DEEP in the lore of QAnon. If you wanna know what she’s talking about, click into the tweet below & head to Gander’s Patreon.

https://twitter.com/dappergander/status/1455220966359977986

“They’ve been working on this plan for a hundred years, and it didn’t go the way we thought, so our feelings are hurt? Come on,” chides the current speaker.

Maybe there wasn’t a MOTORCADE, “but how many of you have seen on TikTok the three white cars that went by?”

The audience seems to have stabilized at around 2,000 people. But of course now that I’ve said that, I’m SURE I’ve jinxed it.

The way these people talk about their favorite influencer, Michael B. Protzman, is creepy and cultish. @XposingXtremism was right to be concerned about it. This is very atypical for QAnon people, who LIKE their influencers but don’t — in general — worship the ground they walk on.

https://twitter.com/qorigins/status/1455656819150499842

The current speaker says not to get discouraged, because no one knows the date or the hour.

He encourages people to read their Bibles and keep the faith that it WILL happen.

“Go back to the scriptures, get comfort in your Bible, and pray.”

Apocalypses are colliding here.

Seriously, they really are. He’s talking to people who are upset that the QAnon Apocalypse(tm) didn’t happen and telling them that the Bible tells them it will happen but no one knows when, which… it doesn’t.

It says that about the Christian apocalypse, but is silent on JFK.

Someone calls for Negative48 to be “held accountable” for the completely failed prophecy.

“WE are accountable,” replies the moderator, protecting her precious Michael.

She goes on to blame people (somewhat incoherently) for leaving the plaza when it began to rain hard.

“I am on the internet 12 to 14 hours a day researching this stuff,” says the moderator.

But none of that addresses the speaker’s point, he says: “the ones that are losing our trust need to speak up.”

“The day is not over yet,” responds a lady. Also:

“Michael, Negative48, would be the first to tell you” to trust God instead of man.

OK, but it kinda sounds like he’s spent a lot of time telling people to trust him in particular as the dispenser of hidden knowledge about the world 🤷‍♂️

This speaker is PISSED at the admins: “you ridicule somebody if they have disappointment!… you were not letting us express our frustration.”

The admin denies it, although she did explicitly ask people to stop using negative language at least twice.

Someone who claimed to be in Dallas jumps in, saying that anyone who’s frustrated is “of little faith.”

Next speaker claims to have only been pilled for two weeks. I have questions. What recruited her to QAnon at this late date?

Anyway, the doubters are vibrating at a lower frequency, apparently, but that’s probably ‘cause they’re “battle-weary” so the newbies should lift them up.

Next speaker is another newbie telling us about her newbie adventures with gematria.

She typed in “I can’t take this anymore” and THOUGHT the gematria came to 120, which apparently was an auspicious number.

Then it turned out 120 was the wrong #.

But it helped her feel good!

“JFK was there today and nobody saw him,” offers a speaker. “It’s a reincarnation story.”

He says he has “a ton of geomatria (sic) sitting right next to me” in case anyone has any questions.

Thank God, no one has engaged with him so far. Long may it continue.

“Trump never has announced what he’s going to do,” says another speaker.

Trump is FAMOUS for announcing what he’s going to do!

“This is not over. This is a military operation… there’s tons of drops, tons of things happening.”

“We did pass the test,” says a woman, because they’re together as a community offering love to each other despite their frustrations.

“God’s teaching us,” she says. “He’s teaching us through Negative48…. I feel like when Trump says he’s the chosen one, so are we.”

We’ve already won, said a speaker; just remember, “you are in a movie.”

This is a spin-off of the QAnon slogan “you are watching a movie.”

“I’ve got a husband who thinks I’m crazy, my son thinks I’m crazy, my while family… remember, you guys: crazy is good.”

This IS a movie, agrees the next speaker. “We finished the movie and it is glorious.”

Sounds like we’re wrapping up soon.

The host is upset that someone said mean things about her, but gently reminds everyone that “you can’t see everything with the human natural eye,” implying: who knows? Maybe JFK and Jr DID come back, just, like, spiritually

“But I’m not trying to be a fake positive person, like someone said,” adds the host right afterwards.

The next speaker is in tears and thinks it’s beautiful that everyone had faith and came out.

The next speaker sniffs that anyone who’s too negative should find a group that’s more on their vibrational level.

This channel is “for us to be in a place of childlike wonder about the world. What took place in Dallas, for me, is an Academy-level performance.”

Hang on, uh…

Is there an Academy Award for standing around in the rain waiting for the apocalypse and then drifting away when it starts raining harder????

Now they’re reading positive tweets about members of the group chat, which: fair enough

The next lady, who has a thick southern accent, sounds like she can’t believe people were expecting to see John Senior. John Junior, SURE. Of *course.*

“This is Biblical,” she says. “It’s not about Michael or Mike Penny or Patriot Streetfighter.” Regardless of what happens tonight at The Rolling Stones’ concert, “the end of this movie is coming.”

Shout out to @_MAArgentino: a Canary Islander who was into QAnon apparently addressed the group today!

And here I thought you were being TOO thorough by reporting on Canary Islands QAnon

A male speaker exhorts the audience to “stop letting MK ULTRA tell us how to think… like what Michael says, it’s a 30-second microwave society.”

I can’t get over how often these people are citing their leader.

He adds, “I don’t call them problems. I call them challenges.”

This man is rambling FOREVER.

“It’s like someone dying,” he says, and I agree.

OK, I’m out.

I have no idea how much longer this is going, but longer than I’m willing to listen, I think.

Sorry, folks, but them’s the breaks! Also, I think I’ve documented all the major coping strategies we’re gonna see.