Thread by @Aal_Moalim

This speech is not sound for a number of reasons as highlighted here (you can skip to around the 16 minute mark)

t.me/doros_alkulify…

I’ll sum it up in this thread:

https://twitter.com/Bhai_biryani/status/1456556045481005056

When Iraq is mentioned, what’s intended are two major hubs:

Kufah & Basrah

When Hijaz is mentioned, what’s intended are two major hubs:

Makkah & Madinah

To say that Iraq did not have access to as many Hadith as Hijaz is egregious.

1. There are 6 individuals who are considered ‘centres of Hadith transmissions’ as mentioned by the great Ali b. Al Madini.

They are:

Al Zuhri - Madinah
‘Amr b. Dinar - Makkah
Yahya b. Abi Kathir - Madinah
Qatadah - Basrah
Abu Ishaq - Kufah
Al ‘Amash - Kufah

As you can see, 50% of these centres are from Iraq.

2. There were jurists during the time of the Imam of Ahl Al Ra’y & before him in Iraq.

The jurists with him include Sharik, Al Hasan b. Salih & Sufyan Al Thawri.

The jurists before him include Hammaad b. Abi Sulayman, Al Hakam b. Utaybah & Habib b. Abi Thabit

And before them include Al Sha’bi and Ibrahim.

And before them Masruq, Alqamah and the rest of Ibn Mas’ud’s companions.

All of these individuals were in Iraq & had views/schools and nobody from Ahl Al Hadith criticised them the way they did the Imam of Ahl Al Ra’i

3. Open up any Hadith work you’ll find that the dominant chains in the work are Iraqi chains followed by Madani/Makkan chains.

Read Bukhari and Muslim and you’ll see this clearly

There is no chapter of ‘Ilm except that the Iraqis have a report regarding it, especially Kufah

4. The fact you were in Kufah means that you had access to mountains of Imams & Hadith. So, the opposite of this egregious statement should be mentioned!

Malik should be the one who these excuses are provided since there’s not a single Musnad report to Ibn Mas’ud in his Muwatta’

Likewise the mention of Ali is not much and some have reported a story (Allah knows best it’s authenticity) that the Caliph said to Malik: why isn’t there much mention of Ali & Ibn Abbas in the Muwatta’? Malik said because they were not in my land & I didn’t meet their students

وروى الخطيب عن أبي بكر الزبيري، قال: قال الرشيد لمالك: لم نر في كتابك ذكراً لعلي وابن عباس، فقال: (لم يكونا ببلدي ولم ألق رجالهما)

shamela.ws/book/551/13

The Fiqh & Hadith of Ali, Ibn Mas’ud & Anas were mainly transmitted in Iraq.

And not just them but many other companions entered Kufah and Iraq and left behind students.

And many Kufans went out and travelled the lands seeking the Ahadith & Fiqh of the Prophet ﷺ

From Ibn Abbas’ greatest students is the Kufan Sa’eed b. Jubayr.

From A’ishah’s most prolific students is Masruq who lived in Kufah.

Hisham b. Urwah who took from his father Urwah who was another prolific student of Aishah also resided in Kufah.

From the strongest students of Mujahid, who was the strongest student of Ibn Abbas and the one about whom Sufyan said: When the Tafsir of Mujahid comes, sufficient is that, was Mansur b. Mu’tamir Al, you guessed it, Kufi

Add to that the Fiqh of Umar, Uthman, Ibn Umar, Abu Hurairah & the Fiqh of Ahl Madinah reached Iraq and Kufah through the Muwatta’ itself and the travelling Kufan students

The Muwatta’ was present in Kufah during the life of the Imam of Ahl Al Ra’iy through Ibrahim b. Tahman.

So to say that “The Iraqis didn’t have access to Hadith” is a truly egregious statement and is only uttered in an attempt to find excuses for certain schools that have been firmly criticised by the A’immah…