Thread by @iMusing

good morning from unceded Darug lands☀️today on #Insiders are Guardian Aust editor in chief Lenore Taylor, ABC politics editor Andrew Probyn and 9fax (AFR) chief government correspondent Phil Coorey.
The interview is with shadow climate change minister Chris Bowen.

this thread is not fact checked.
I block snitchtaggers. #Insiders

for those who have not heard of snitchtagging, please google instead of asking me to do it #Insiders

opening spiel: “truth trust and a leaked text”.
what’s the Morrison perspective, skip? “The prime minister tries to move on.”
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Scott Morrison knew it would be a tuff trip, says Speers. “He did not know it would turn into a nightmare” [for Scott Morrison], Speers says. Any other perspective? Lol no. #Insiders

the montage is the story journalists keep telling us “overshadowed” the global climate emergency. No word on who produces this overshadowing effect. #Insiders

the Liberal Party formulation “claims were made and claims were refuted” gets multiple runs. Turnbull saying “Scott has always had a reputation for lying”. #Insiders

#MakingNews opens with breaking news - that disgraced former Victorian shadow Attorney General Tim Smith will not re-contest the next election after crashing his Jag while drunk. #Insiders

panel. Speers frames the top story as Macron making a “personal” attack on Morrison. Probyn opens with yet another blow-by-blow account of the corridor huddle, about which thousands of words have already been published this weekend. #Insiders

it was a really remarkable moment, says Probyn. And it really paid off, says Speers. The heroic Bevan Shields gets another airing. Clip of Birmingham equivocating and deflecting. Speers calls his claims “offensive”. #Insiders

hard nosed journalism, says Probyn. “Chasing a yarn”. What about the submarines, Phil? Coorey says *Macron* has his own agenda. It is clear he was not blindsided, says Coorey. He says Morrison told Macron in June, an even bolder stretch than from Morrison himself. #Insiders

a level of deception? asks Speers. Is that lying or is that too strong? Taylor addresses the June dinner claims Coorey made. She says even the leaks that came out this week show the French didn’t know what was coming. #Insiders

“there is a very strong case on the public record that we deliberately kept the French in the dark”, says Taylor. But is that fair enough? asks Speers. Is that justified? Surely in an alternative universe the French would have tried to blow up the AUKUS [paraphrased]? #Insiders

now about the “accusation” of lying, says Speers to Coorey, who says he will never condemn leaks in this or any other forum because that is how journalists feed their families. He rejects “condemning leaks” twice more. #Insiders

no of course Speers is not judging any journalist for receiving leaks, he quickly clarifies. Probyn repeats the point made by Taylor, that the text shows “the French knew there were some misgivings” and calls leaking the Macron end of the text convo “foolhardy”. #Insiders

it goes further, says Taylor. It puts his political interest ahead of the national interest. It would prompt any world leader to ask themselves if Morrison can be trusted. Cuts to clip of Morrison at the boatbuilding site photo opp. #Insiders

Biden comments. You can argue over cost and whatever, says Probyn, but it was not an issue before the trip. Shift to Coorey, who says *the Biden comments* were graceless and clumsy. Biden said Aust lacked grace. #Insiders

apparently Macron “played it perfectly” and “kicked” is all over the room, according to Coorey. To whatever degree Morrison’s belligerent incompetence can not be cleaned up by journos, it is because the French are so tricksy and have some unfair advantage is the gist. #Insiders

it will take a long time to fix this, says Taylor. From Probyn we get the view that Malcolm Turnbull diminished himself, was venomous, and as an exPM he should respect the office. Did he go too far? Asks Speers. Yes says Probyn. #Insiders

kicking the idea that anyone criticising Morrison is “siding with the French” nationalistic nonsense along, Coorey claims talkback radio as evidence. #Insiders

clip of Biden on the methane pledge to segue to the interview. Why don’t you want Australia to sign up? Speers asks the shadow climate minister. I want a government that takes climate change seriously says Bowen. Agriculture, farmers want to work to reduce emissions. #Insiders

the meat and livestock has signed on to be carbon neutral so why not sign the methane pledge? Speers asks. Bowen refrains from explaining to Speers who is in a position to sign international pledges on behalf of the Australian government. #Insiders

we know Labor agrees the government as well on expanding gas fields, says Speers. First time I have heard Speers refer to the Morrison government policy of expanding fossil fuel e traction and increase methane and carbon emissions. #Insiders

we don’t support new gas fired stations like [the $600 million announcement by Angus Taylor and Scott Morrison in coal seats the Coalition wants to win] Kurri Kurri says Bowen. #Insiders

should Australia sign a pledge to phase out coal? Bowen says policy interventions to reduce our emissions are what matters. But what about the performative lies on the global stage [paraphrased]? Speers asks another eleventy times. #Insiders

what we call on the government to do is legislate net zero, explains Bowen. He says CCS will play no role in reducing coal emissions. The government puts too much store in carbon capture and storage. Should the government put more money into CCS? #Insiders

the government is just about diluting the investment in renewables through ARENA and the CEC (clean energy investment vehicles established by Labor whose success has been claimed by the liars in the Coalition) #Insiders

the safeguards mechanism doesn’t work, Bowen says. This governments toxic campaigning and lies about its climate policy settings, he notes. It is his melancholy duty to inform Speers he is not announcing new policy on #Insiders twinkles Bowen.

now about the Morrison net zero announcement. Bowen says there is no modelling so Labor will respond when there is. Speers, who has categorically stated the modelling “will” be released, says but Treasury is not involved so are *you* still waiting on the modelling😳#Insiders

most inept foreign visit since Billy McMahon, says Bowen. Now we have seen the Morrison habit of lying on the international stage. He reels off a greatest hits of Morrison lies. This man is a liar, says Bowen. But just to be clear… says one trick Speers. #Insiders

“he lies about not calling Sam Dastiyari Shanghai Sam” got a look in lol #Insiders

Bowen is a Speersy man. #Insiders

Speers puts that there are “mixed views” on the Glasgow summit to Taylor. She says there is still a long way to go. Modi’s commitment is significant, she notes, by bringing India into the fold of counties that are trying to do something. #Insiders

maybe not enough to get to 1.5 degrees and there is no pressure from Labor for the government to phase out coal, says Speers to Coorey. In fact, Bowen said the government should legislate net zero. #Insiders

Coorey says if Morrison tried to phase out coal there would be a [Liberal Party] leadership ballot the next day - the real reason Morrison will not even try to pass his announcement into law. #Insiders

you can not ignore the fact that Russia and China were not at the COP says Coorey in his minimising defeatist blanderising way. It became an east west geo-strategic stand off? Was that the word? Aust climate failures are sort of nothing because China is the gist. #Insiders

Probyn agrees that geostrategic whatever is whatever. All domestic political journalists do this self-important verbal bustling on foreign affairs. #Insiders

the safeguard mechanism? Can you pls explain? Speers asks Taylor, which she does. It say there quietly for a decade with Greg Hunt saying he will turn it on when it matters, she says, and the Abbott and Turnbull and Morrison governments have not done so [paraphrased] #Insiders

clip of Scott Morrison lying about disastrous Liberal Party economic management, which Speers helpfully amplifies as what Scott Morrison wants for the re-election prospects for Scott Morrison. #Insiders

flick to Coorey for more #ScottSplaining and to amplify the Liberal Party campaign strategy, which is the same as last time because there are no creative thinkers and lying about their economic vandalism works with loyal press gallery journos cleaning up their record #Insiders

#TalkingPictures is up. Coach Sammy J is a Speersy man.

https://twitter.com/insidersabc/status/1457119352457682947

#FinalObservations 1 is Probyn saying Indonesian President Widodo will pledge to phasing out coal in return for $24 billion #Insiders

#FinalObservations 2 is Taylor saying “notwithstanding Glasgow”, Australia has a huge number of goal and gas expansion projects in the works #Insiders - as reported here in Guardian Aus: theguardian.com/environment/20…

#FinalObservations 3 is Coorey saying - and self-describing as indulgent - overseas trips are good, the rest of the world is looking post covid normal and Australian border closures stopping him visiting his home state look “strange” #Insiders

missed the outtake, sorry. Something about Macron. #Insiders

this has been another edition of watching #Insiders so you don’t have to👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼

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thank you to fact checkers for adding a description of the outtake:

https://twitter.com/stava61/status/1457123033202651136