Ok, so worth really looking closely at the @NatureMedicine paper that's been cited widely on the impact of COVID-19 on children's deaths.
This has several key limitations, and should not be cited in the way it is being🧵
The analysis is between March '20-Feb '21. Why is this important:
-delta was not dominant
-there were 3 lockdowns during this period
None of this is relevant now with delta, no mitigations, the highest infection rates we've *ever* had in children (4-5% even post- half-term)
The authors carried a review of 61 deaths in children who were positive for SARS-CoV-2/had PIMS-TS and come to the conclusion that only 25 were due to SARS-CoV-2. They conclude that only 25/61= 41% of all children who died 'with' COVID-19 died 'from' it.
"identifying whether SARS-CoV-2 was listed as 1a (the direct cause of death) on the Certificate of Cause of Death and whether the clinical course described was typical of SARS-CoV-2 infection." For the rest, a review was carried out to determine whether SARS-CoV-2 contributed.
It depended on a subjective review of case reports by 3 experts. All reviewers only agreed on only half of the cases they reviewed, indicating the really subjective nature of review. And consensus still could not be reached on 9 which needed further review.
For deaths from PIMS-TS, a multi-inflammatory syndrome that can occur after COVID-19, they relied on diagnoses being in the electronic record. Given this syndrome was only identified and described in April 2020, this would almost certainly have been underestimated.
In fact the authors note the difficulty in identifying PIMS-TS related deaths, because a diagnostic code for this was only generated in Nov 2020. Different codes were considered to represent this before, but it's very likely cases would've been missed at least early on.
The ONS data from the same period on deaths in 0-19 yr olds (0-18 yr olds not publicly available) "involving COVID-19" are 33 (if their end point is 28th Feb) for England and Wales.
These figures are roughly consistent to me with what they may have found, although I can't be completely sure because the exact date range isn't clear, the ONS doesn't provide data separately on PIMS-TS (which would've been underestimated by the ONS too), & the age range is diff.
But what this goes to show is despite what may be a reasonably thorough, if subjective review of the evidence (as the nature of this will always be, even with death certification), it is not generalisable to the current data at all. And it suggests the ONS estimates are accurate.
ONS deaths 'involving COVID-19' include similar classification to what the review has produced- deaths directly due to COVID-19, and with COVID-19 as a contributor cause (also on the causal pathway). Both these would be attributable to COVID-19.
Unfortunately current ONS estimates, suggest a very very different picture - post-delta, and since mitigations have been mostly lifted in schools, which has meant mass infection in kids. ONS currently shows that 68 deaths till end of Oct from COVID-19 in 0-19 yr olds
These are of course underestimates, because death registration gets backfilled & recent weeks are underestimated. This doesn't include the last 2 weeks where there have been deaths in children as per PHE data, at least some of which will be back filled in. They don't include PIMS
These data are lagged, and concord very well with PHE data of COVID-19 deaths within 28 days of a positive test for recent waves, which means once data are backfilled, we have ~101 deaths in children up to now in England & Wales:
By contrast with what the paper says which may have been true at the time, the vast majority of deaths with COVID-19 in children are very sadly due to COVID-19 now. There were 94+3=97 deaths in PHE 28 day data compared with 68 in the ONS which is 70% of with COVID being 'from'
If you consider only this year, this proportion is even higher >80%, which suggests that currently most deaths occurring within 28 days of a positive test have SARS-CoV-2 as a cause (direct or contributing cause)
Ok, let's talk about pre-existing conditions now. The paper suggests that 3 of four deaths were in children with 'pre-existing conditions'. The most common pre-existing condition cited is 'neurological condition' which includes learning disabilities and mental health conditions.
Obesity and trauma are also included.
For PIMS-TS- which is likely to have been underestimated, 2 out of 3 children were deemed not to have an 'underlying condition'
What I find most egregious and misleading in the paper is putting down SARS-CoV-2 deaths with a population denominator - suggesting the rate is 2/million. This is wholly incorrect, because the no. of deaths depend on exposure, especially in a pandemic & this number isn't constant
Indeed, if you look at deaths from COVID-19 based on the latest ONS data this would be ~3 times higher, even with outdated data. They then compare with *all other causes of deaths*, as if this is in any way a meaningful comparison- all with population denominators!
Anyone re-assured that so far the death rate in kids has been 6/million *population* (current ONS) with lots of potential to rise? If all children were infected this would be 700 deaths as per the papers IFR estimate (even Whitty said most children will inevitably get infected)
And of course children could get infected again and again, so this isn't even necessarily an upper bound estimate of what could happen. So the infection fatality rate of 5 per 100,000 may seem small, but it's not that small when you allow almost all kids to get infected.
Just for comparison, 30 children died because of flu in 2019 (no lockdowns or mitigations)- comparatively we've already seen many more deaths with COVID-19, despite 3 lockdowns - more recently as mitigations were removed.
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Of course the study doesn't look at the most common impacts on children which are long COVID related persistent symptoms (increasing rapidly over time), impact from being orphaned, living with someone with long COVID, and educational disruption from lack of mitigations.
Overall, this study has little value at the current time except confirming the ONS data are robust which of course suggests death rates have increased in children- are much higher than other childhood illnesses, & will increase further unless action is taken.

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12 Nov
A quick look at what's happening in at least some parts of Western Europe where cases are surging.
Seems to be a combination of:
-school related surges due to lack of mitigations
-premature easing of restrictions
-over-reliance on vaccines, lack of multi-layered strategies
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1) Austria: There's no doubt that children and young people are driving the pandemic. Austria removed masks from within classrooms when schools re-opened in Sept replacing this with a 3x wkly testing.
They also relaxed rules on quarantine, exempting vaccinated contacts & shortening quarantine with test and release on the 5th day for quarantine of contacts. There was supposed to be focus on better ventilation and air-purification but this doesn't seem to have materialised.
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11 Nov
For the "we've reached herd immunity in kids, and infections have peaked" crowd: unfortunately, this isn't true. It's the usual half-term related drop that is reversing. The trends are clear in many places, & early rises being seen in England. This is expected but very worrying🧵
The pattern is clear in places like Leicestershire that had half term a week before other parts. Rises clear in all children age groups and young people. Very likely other parts of England will follow.
Similar trends in Scotland where half term also started and ended earlier than England.
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4 Nov
REACT-1 results from today:
-highest SARS-CoV-2 prevalence since the study started in May 2020
-very high prevalence in primary & secondary school kids
-higher infection in households with children
-⬆️ in AY.4.2 to 11% end Oct
- 4x increase in SW - due to Immensa scandal
REACT-1 shows the overall prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 was higher than in any previous round of REACT-1 since May 2020. It estimates that ~1.2 million people were infected on any day towards the end of Oct. Swab positivity declines towards the end of Oct coinciding with half-term.
The study finds the highest prevalence of infection ~5.7% among primary and secondary school age children, with increased risk for those living with children. They say this is driving the rise of infection in the 65+ age group where prevalence has *doubled* between Sept and Oct.
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23 Oct
Lockdowns happen when governments delay public health measures until too late. Scientists have been arguing for masks, ventilation, vaccination, support for isolation which have little/no negative impacts. Why're we portrayed as 'pro-lockdown' when we're trying to prevent them?
Almost every single interview I've done in the last few days has involved the interviewer conflating public health measures like mask wearing, social distancing etc. with lockdowns, speaking about a 'balance' between mental health & economic impacts and health. Please do better.
There is no dichotomy here. Masks, ventilation, vaccination, are all essential to contain COVID-19, and therefore essential to protect health, economy, and freedoms - because if we don't put these measures in place, it is likely we'll need more severe restrictions.
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23 Oct
Letter from our council today to parents.
'Schools are working hard to balance safety' with 'children receiving the education they deserve'...
Don't children deserve safety and education, especially when making their environment safer is what ensures they can stay in school?🧵
The next bit tells contacts they don't need to isolate, but are advised to get a single PCR test. The first bit of advice is to 'wash your hands for 20 secs'.
Kids are expected to 'wear a face covering.. where they encounter lots of people in an encloses space'.. except schools!
I couldn't bring myself to read the rest. Our children are being let down badly- by govt, by JCVI, by RCPCH, former PHE (now UKHSA), and local authorities. I feel completely hopeless for our children- who are getting infected in droves, while other countries protect theirs.
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22 Oct
I wish I didn't have to do this, but someone does- so let's rebut the multiple strawman and misinformed arguments on this thread 👇
Ok, so let's be clear on what people have been saying which is is that *current death rates* in the UK are >2x higher than *Western Europe*. This is entirely true. This tweet uses *cumulative deaths* which is misleading & conflates Europe with W. Europe.

There is *no doubt* that early lockdowns would've saved lives. A small first wave does not mean a large exit wave, as many SE Asian countries & Israel showed pre-delta. Those that did have large 2nd waves had these because of alpha spread from England!

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