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Chair: the tribunal now needs to go and make a decision privately. At that point we need to distill that I to a document and that takes time. We'll then go to a process with a committee and how we arrived at that. The earliest day is midday on Wednesday.
It's likely that day will move and if you'll be so kind to provide contacts if we think it's Thurs or Fri we will inform you.
GP: is there a possibility of it being earlier
Chairman: no
Chair: of you cantget here maybe you can be here by other means. We will make sure sufficient time to arrive. We're not going to tell you to be here immediately.
GP: clarifies again won't be earlier
Chair says no and thanks to everyone.
Thank you for tuning in this week and we thank you for all your messages of support and thanks. It really is much appreciated. From myself and the team have a lovely weekend. VM
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RD discussing submissions.
Chair says the guidance documents weren't contained within it, they're publucally available, rarely placed into a bundle. Other point to article 6, missing tweets, not determinative in this case
RD: ....evidence could be obtained and rare to stop because of missing evidence overlaps with article 6. Gmc say can make this decision fairly
Chair: if we don't have that context then the burden rests with GMC
RD: there the only points I'd like to raise
GP: hope its convenient to structure submissions as follows. Starting to ref paragraph 3. Hope helpful I've summarised
Good morning from Manchester on Day 5 of @the_mpts case of Dr Adrian Harrop. The proceedings are due to begin at 10:30am and we're here ready to go.
For Clarity, Adrian Harrop will be abbreviated to AH, his representative Giles Powell, GP and GMC representative Ryan Donahue is RD.
Tribunal members Nicholas Flannagan is CHAIR, Dr. Vivek Sen, VS, and Mr Gulzar Mufti, GM.
We are running late. Hopefully we'll get started soon.
Chairman: have you had a time to talk about the Vice article?
AH: yes
Chairman: do you have questions Mr. Donahugh?
RD: you've read it?
AH: I've skimmed it
RD: there's a number of quotes are they accurate
AH: They are accurate.
RD: how did the article come ro be?
AH: my friend Ben hunter reached out as a friend saying he'd like to write an article in support of me and my experience.
RD: did you know it'd be published this week?
AH: no
RD: going to read a few quotes, AH believes it was an orchestrated campaign against you. Do you believe that's the case
AH: no, that quote was from a long response to Hunte
GP: says not the quote can we have the full quote
RD reads full quote
Dr Sen paraphrases AD'S evidence.
Sen: when you first saw Dr kumar and Dr Cooper, you looked at the guidance superficially and cast them aside. The guidance has only come come be a thing for you in last 6 months. You've been a salaried Dr since 2019
Sen: when did you finish your membership exam, did you have a chance to read the guidance.
AH: I did have knowledge of it but only for purposes for passing the exam.
This is different from holding information dear that remembering things for an exam
DR sen: would some of it not sunk in?
AH: I'm speculating to be truthful...lost my trail of thought.. ask me question again.
Dr: would some of that info not have sunk in?
We are back.
RD: just want to look briefly at the issue of 'insight'. You've said your insight was partial in 2018/2019
AH: yes
RD: when do you think your insight has begun to develop
AH: to a significant degree in the last 6 months
AH: My org is fantastic org and had some xonvis with senior members an dlooked at why I conducted myself in a certain way. Looked at triggers in situs and why that was a maladaptive way of viewing the situation. Only ever wanted to do the right thing
AH: it was maladaptive and it was wrong and I was point scoring and gaming idea. It felt joyous scoring these points.the likes, the retweets, I was given awards for it. It made me feel a rush of adrenalin and dopamine. I thought I was doing the right thing. I realise now
We are resuming now.
AH asks for more water.
RD: AH I'd like to look at E's tweets towards you, relevant to these allegations. Paragraph 49, D1 p.22.
You said E tweeted you 50 tweets from 30th March to 1st april
RD: you've not produced these tweets.
(Confusion over pages) AH says he can't see it and needs assistance. Chair clarifies the bundle number and RD says he doesn't know why his bundle is different and it's concerning
GP isn't sure why.
RD: want to ask AH the tweets you produce in that bundle. Some are specific refs to you. Tweet beginning 'yes you are you sick degenerate'
AH isn't sure if he's got the right tweet.