What is the right thing to do?

When you are wrong, you apologize - as I did after seeing @bencowling88 and @jburnmurdoch's analysis of the 53% masking study.

You retract if the honest errors are particularly large or impactful.
I propose that Loeb (2009) and Radonovich (2019) need to be retracted as they were measuring the efficacy of N95's versus surgical masks in protection from an airborne disease - but using droplet protocols.

Not airborne protocols.

First - we can see that
influenza is airborne via aerosols:

Cowling et al (2013)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
Tellier (2006)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
High-level review of Milton et al (2018)
cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspecti…
Study:
pnas.org/content/115/5/…
While hospitals tend to have excellent ventilation, it is not enough to prevent infections. To wit:
khn.org/news/article/h…

In the below study, a CoVid ward with 12 ACH (double the standard excellent ventilation rate of 6 ACH), "(w)hen the door to the patient room was open,
high levels of aerosols had crossed the corridor and entered the nurses’ station at baseline measurement."
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

So, flu is airborne via aerosols, and even excellent ventilation in hospitals is not enough to prevent aerosols from flowing into corridors.
H/t @CPita3 for catching these gaps in the these studies.

Loeb et al (2009)
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/…

"Objective: To compare the surgical mask with the N95 respirator in protecting health care workers against influenza."

They acknowledge that influenza is spread via aerosols. Image
The key parts are in the Interventions section.

Cntrl + F "1 m of a patient" to jump to it. Image
The nurses wore gloves and gowns when entering the room of a patient. Per the instructions of the Ministry of Heath and Long-Term Care, they would put on a surgical mask when within 1 meter of a patient.

Those are droplet protocols. Not airborne protocols.
Someone asked - "What if the nurses put on the mask prior to entering the room?"

It doesn't matter. As shown above, aerosols flow into corridors.

There were Audits - the auditor never entered the patient room.

We might assume that the nurse put on the PPE in the corridor Image
in front of the auditor.

But that is an assumption - and we have no idea what happened in room itself as the auditors never went into the room, as shown above.

A clue of what went on - can be found from the timing of the study.
Study period was between January 12, 2009 and April 23, 2009.

The audits were from March 11 to April 3, 2009.

Study was ended on April 23, 2009 - due to the H1N1 Pandemic, and requirement of the usage of N95's. (pic).

So, what were the default protocols for influenza, then? Image
The June 19, 2009 / 58(23);641-645, MMWR indicates that standard droplet protocols were in place.

Therefore, except for the 18 events from the 23 days when an audit was conducted, we have 58 days where the default protocol was in place.

3 feet away.

cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/m… Image
And keep in mind - all events were handled at the very best with the donning of PPE done right outside the door.

If you enter an asbestos abatement site with asbestos swirling around, does it matter if you put on your N95 when you've already inhaled it? H/t @sameo416 for this.
Back to the study, it's no wonder that surgical masks were found to be noninferior to N95's.

And the results were found to suggest that small aerosols do not dominate transmission.

This cannot be understated - the entire IPC field's understanding of the usage of N95's
is based in part on this study.

Let me go back to where this thread started.

Will an editor's note suffice to undo the damage of these honest errors?

Is that the right thing to do?

While you think upon that, let's move onto Radonovich et al (2019).

jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/…
If you don't want to read any more on this study, you can skip down to the tweet with this picture, again.

cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/content_pu…

In essence, the picture of this diagram contained all that we really need to know - 6 feet is not enough for aerosols.

But let's dive in. Image
The question it is seeking to answer

"Is the use of N95 respirators or medical masks more effective in preventing influenza infection among outpatient health care personnel in close contact with patients with suspected respiratory illness?

They found that, counter-intuitively,
N95's performed worse. 8.2% of HCW's ended up with influenza, as opposed to those with surgical masks at 7.2%

Not a significant difference, but certainly raises questions given that N95's with a good seal have 95% Inward Protective Efficiency per NIOSH.

Surgical masks?
Not even rated by NIOSH for airborne protection.

Of interest to all, should be the fact that this study cited Loeb (2009) as inconclusive evidence that N95's have been clinically effective.
In the "Procedures, Interventions, and Group Allocation" section we find the key part:

"Participants were instructed to put on a new device whenever they were positioned within 6 feet (1.83 m) of patients with suspected or confirmed respiratory illness." Image
Any audits? Yes, randomly - and did not enter the patients' room.

Reviewing the supplementary material, we find:
cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/content_pu…

that the protocol was at 6 feet - or entering a small room. ImageImage
And in the supplemental eAppendix, we find:

"Study monitor observed device wearing before entering and after exiting patient rooms was 40.6 % in
the N95 arm and 33.5 %in the MM arms (p = 0.02), suggesting adherence was larger in the N95 arm.
"
cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/content_pu…
But - those enforcing this adherence were told within 6 feet - of a suspected or confirmed respiratory infection.

cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/content_pu…

Influenza has a 2 day presymptomatic period, so this is another issue. But let's put that aside and continue on our 6 foot long journey. Image
The pre Study Activation and Study Activation Letters - say nothing about doors.

Does say "within 6 feet" ImageImage
Daily Exposure Form - does not ask about doors.

Does ask about 6 feet. (pics below are zoomed in, and then the relevant part of the Exposure form). ImageImage
I am still adding to this thread.

I recommend not replying quite yet - I will say "/fin" upon completion.
The Patient-Based Observation Form - merely asks if the HCW wore a mask during the visit.

Not if they wore it through the door. Image
So, to conclude with Radonovich - it was a study designed to test PPE in a clinical setting - versus an airborne disease.

That found those in N95's got sick more than those in surgical masks. Not significantly scientifically, but significantly enough to be a red flag. Image
What is the right thing to do?

The WHO IPC Guidelines for CoVid recommend continuous medical (surgical) mask usage.

who.int/publications/i…

Which is based on:
apps.who.int/iris/bitstream…

In that document, a Cochrane review, Image
located here:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

In which the key message was "We are uncertain whether wearing masks or N95/P2 respirators helps to slow the spread of respiratory viruses."

As based on 5 studies. Two of which were Loeb and Radonovich.

Without those 2 studies? Image
N95's are statistically superior to surgical masks in a clinical setting.

Nothing short of retraction of Loeb and Radonovich will do to right the mistakes that have been made to the world's Health Care Workers - and to the IPC field, itself.

Those studies have been, and will
continue to be cited by those seeking to make their mistaken cases that surgical masks are equivalent in the clinical setting.

As we have seen during this pandemic, an editor's note will not suffice. Those are generally missed in the speed of today's internet-connected world.
Loeb and Radonovich must be retracted.
/Fin

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I'm triple-vaxxed, and heading in for my 4th.

With that said, my 99.97% N100 and P100's are far more protective than any CoVid vaccine.

With THAT said....go get your booster - and wear at least an N95 while you do so.

And never listen to someone who's made as many bad calls as
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It is amazing to me that this is not front page news as it affects EVERY single doctor and nurse in the world.

The medical community has been fooled by two major RCT's, Loeb and Radonovich.

Those studies purport to measure N95's versus surgical masks.

They do...but are fatally ImageImage
flawed.

They measure the efficacy of PPE against an airborne disease, influenza, when using DROPLET protocols.

So, of course, surgical masks were found to be at the same level, OR BETTER, as N95's.

Which is the opposite of what the laws of physics say - or NIOSH & OSHA.
They must be retracted as they are at the base of every IPC guideline in the world.

Why not just an editor's note?

They have been cited so often, and are embedded in every IPC guidance document in the world.

If not directly, then by the local IPC department depending on the
Read 5 tweets
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This thread is interesting, but draws some incorrect conclusions.

The concentration of aerosols that happens when we go inside is the largest factor, but low relative humidity does not help.

There are a fair number of studies that have looked at this.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/artic… Image
So, incorrect conclusions?

Pretty much everything except that lower relative humidity increases chances of getting infected due to less efficient cilia motility.

How do we know this?

By paying attention to the aerosol scientists rather than people
liked by Bhattacharya, Kulldorff - and who are trying to persuade you that you can get away with intervening with just water?



Sigh.

Enough of the ruckus. Now, for the receipts.
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@RobynSchofield3

Hi Dr. Schofield - I'm working on a thread that I could use some additional information on?

In ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P… (such a great study!), the supplementary doc does not seem to contain a diagram of the ward.

Do you have such an architectural diagram?

If ImageImage
not, did I assume correct with the patient room labelling in the first picture, and do you have the length and width of the room in the second picture? I saw the overall floor space of 12.8 m2, but wasn't sure about how it was split.

Thank you!

For others - this is a
fantastic study to see how portable air cleaners ONLY ENHANCE current HVAC standards.

Doesn't matter whether it's a hospital (normally 6 ACH), a school (just over 1 ACH), or an office (quite often 3 ACH).

Your home? Usually just like a school - and what is called "poor"
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I never want to hear about valveless respirators again.

H/T @PPEtoheros.

salon.com/2020/08/22/cdc…

Delta said they weren't accepting them.

And THEN the CDC came out against them.

Despite having 624 valved respirators recommended for HCW's on their website.
@Delta @AssistDelta - please get your lobbyists to get the @CDCgov @CDCDirector to undo their RIDICULOUS valved respirator stance.

You broke this. You fix it.
3M says, "Nope, valved respirators are not a problem."
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Austria - 70.6% vaxxed.
956 cases / 100 K

US - 59% vaxxed
207 cases / 100K

Have FFP2 (their N95) respirators available for 59 cents in stores.
They are mandatory. No cloth masks. Poor and elderly got free ones.
google.com/amp/s/amp.fran…
Austria rules...basically FFP2 unless seated down like in a restaurant. And each region has a few more rules.
austria.info/en/service-and…

FFP2 are 94% vs our 95%.
multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/1791…
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