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16 Dec, 9 tweets, 1 min read
𝑻𝒉𝒆 π‘³π’‚π’˜ 𝒐𝒇 𝑾𝒂𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒅 𝑬𝒇𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒕
𝑫𝒐 π’šπ’π’– π’Œπ’π’π’˜ 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 π’π’Šπ’π’π’” π’π’π’π’š 𝒔𝒖𝒄𝒄𝒆𝒆𝒅 π’Šπ’ 𝒂 𝒒𝒖𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒆𝒓 𝒐𝒇 π’•π’‰π’†π’Šπ’“ π’‰π’–π’π’•π’Šπ’π’ˆ π’‚π’•π’•π’†π’Žπ’‘π’•π’” β€” π’˜π’‰π’Šπ’„π’‰ π’Žπ’†π’‚π’π’” π’•π’‰π’†π’š π’‡π’‚π’Šπ’ π’Šπ’ 75% 𝒐𝒇 π’•π’‰π’†π’Šπ’“ π’‚π’•π’•π’†π’Žπ’‘π’•π’”... (1/n)
...a𝒏𝒅 𝒔𝒖𝒄𝒄𝒆𝒆𝒅𝒔 π’Šπ’ π’π’π’π’š 25% 𝒐𝒇 π’•π’‰π’†π’Ž.
π‘«π’†π’”π’‘π’Šπ’•π’† π’•π’‰π’Šπ’” π’”π’Žπ’‚π’π’ π’‘π’†π’“π’„π’†π’π’•π’‚π’ˆπ’† 𝒔𝒉𝒂𝒓𝒆𝒅 π’ƒπ’š π’Žπ’π’”π’• 𝒑𝒓𝒆𝒅𝒂𝒕𝒐𝒓𝒔, π’•π’‰π’†π’š 𝒅𝒐𝒏'𝒕 π’…π’†π’”π’‘π’‚π’Šπ’“ π’Šπ’ π’•π’‰π’†π’Šπ’“ π’‘π’–π’“π’”π’–π’Šπ’• 𝒂𝒏𝒅 π’‰π’–π’π’•π’Šπ’π’ˆ π’‚π’•π’•π’†π’Žπ’‘π’•π’”. (2/n)
𝑻𝒉𝒆 π’Žπ’‚π’Šπ’ 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒐𝒏 𝒇𝒐𝒓 π’•π’‰π’Šπ’” π’Šπ’” 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒃𝒆𝒄𝒂𝒖𝒔𝒆 𝒐𝒇 π’‰π’–π’π’ˆπ’†π’“ 𝒂𝒔 π’”π’π’Žπ’† π’Žπ’Šπ’ˆπ’‰π’• π’•π’‰π’Šπ’π’Œ 𝒃𝒖𝒕 π’Šπ’• π’Šπ’” 𝒕𝒉𝒆 π’–π’π’…π’†π’“π’”π’•π’‚π’π’…π’Šπ’π’ˆ 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 β€œπ‘³π’‚π’˜ 𝒐𝒇 𝑾𝒂𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒅 𝑬𝒇𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒕𝒔” 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒃𝒆𝒆𝒏 ... (3/n)
π’Šπ’π’”π’•π’Šπ’π’„π’•π’Šπ’—π’†π’π’š π’ƒπ’–π’Šπ’π’• π’Šπ’π’•π’ π’‚π’π’Šπ’Žπ’‚π’π’”, 𝒂 π’π’‚π’˜ π’Šπ’ π’˜π’‰π’Šπ’„π’‰ 𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒆 π’Šπ’” π’ˆπ’π’—π’†π’“π’π’†π’….
𝑯𝒂𝒍𝒇 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 π’†π’ˆπ’ˆπ’” 𝒐𝒇 π’‡π’Šπ’”π’‰π’†π’” 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒆𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒏...
𝒉𝒂𝒍𝒇 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 π’ƒπ’‚π’ƒπ’š 𝒃𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒔 π’…π’Šπ’† 𝒃𝒆𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒆 π’‘π’–π’ƒπ’†π’“π’•π’š...
(4/n)
π’Žπ’π’”π’• 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 π’˜π’π’“π’π’…'𝒔 π’“π’‚π’Šπ’π’” 𝒇𝒂𝒍𝒍 π’Šπ’ 𝒐𝒄𝒆𝒂𝒏𝒔...
𝒂𝒏𝒅 π’Žπ’π’”π’• 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒆𝒆𝒅𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒓𝒆𝒆𝒔 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒆𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒏 π’ƒπ’š π’ƒπ’Šπ’“π’…π’”.
π‘Ίπ’„π’Šπ’†π’π’•π’Šπ’”π’•π’” 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒇𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 π’‚π’π’Šπ’Žπ’‚π’π’”, 𝒕𝒓𝒆𝒆𝒔, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒐𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 (5/n)
𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒄𝒆𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒆 𝒂𝒓𝒆 π’Žπ’π’“π’† π’“π’†π’„π’†π’‘π’•π’Šπ’—π’† 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 π’π’‚π’˜ 𝒐𝒇 "π’˜π’‚π’”π’•π’†π’… 𝒆𝒇𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒕𝒔".
π‘Άπ’π’π’š π’‰π’–π’Žπ’‚π’π’” π’•π’‰π’Šπ’π’Œ 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 π’π’‚π’„π’Œ 𝒐𝒇 𝒔𝒖𝒄𝒄𝒆𝒔𝒔 π’Šπ’ 𝒂 π’‡π’†π’˜ π’‚π’•π’•π’†π’Žπ’‘π’•π’” π’Šπ’” π’‡π’‚π’Šπ’π’–π’“π’†... (6/n)
𝒃𝒖𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒕𝒓𝒖𝒕𝒉 π’Šπ’” 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕: π’˜π’† π’π’π’π’š π’‡π’‚π’Šπ’ π’˜π’‰π’†π’ π’˜π’† "𝒔𝒕𝒐𝒑 π’•π’“π’šπ’Šπ’π’ˆ".
𝑺𝒖𝒄𝒄𝒆𝒔𝒔 π’Šπ’” 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒕𝒐 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒂 π’π’Šπ’‡π’† 𝒇𝒓𝒆𝒆 𝒐𝒇 π’‘π’Šπ’•π’‡π’‚π’π’π’” 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒇𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒔... 𝒃𝒖𝒕 𝒔𝒖𝒄𝒄𝒆𝒔𝒔 π’Šπ’” 𝒕𝒐 π’˜π’‚π’π’Œ 𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓 π’šπ’π’–π’“... (7/n)
...π’Žπ’Šπ’”π’•π’‚π’Œπ’†π’” 𝒂𝒏𝒅 π’ˆπ’ π’ƒπ’†π’šπ’π’π’… π’†π’—π’†π’“π’š π’”π’•π’‚π’ˆπ’† π’˜π’‰π’†π’“π’† π’šπ’π’–π’“ 𝒆𝒇𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒕𝒔 π’˜π’†π’“π’† π’˜π’‚π’”π’•π’†π’… π’π’π’π’Œπ’Šπ’π’ˆ π’‡π’π’“π’˜π’‚π’“π’… 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒏𝒆𝒙𝒕 π’”π’•π’‚π’ˆπ’†.
(8/n)
𝑰𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 π’Šπ’” 𝒂 π’˜π’π’“π’… 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 π’”π’–π’Žπ’Žπ’‚π’“π’Šπ’›π’†π’” π’•π’‰π’Šπ’” π’˜π’π’“π’π’…, π’Šπ’• π’˜π’Šπ’π’ π’”π’Šπ’Žπ’‘π’π’š 𝒃𝒆 "π’„π’π’π’•π’Šπ’π’–π’† 𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓 π’‚π’ˆπ’‚π’Šπ’...!!

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Why is Market getting tough?
Monetary tightening has begun around the world. Central banks pulling out liquidity and looking for increasing interest rates.
This essentially means that easy money is going out of the system. Out of markets. (1/n)
This is actually the reason why FIIs have been relentlessly selling Indian equities. Once the next many months, finding capital is going to get tougher. And so the markets could see those animal spirits missing going forth.
(2/n)
Fundamentally good companies and good valuations would be spared to some extent. Bad fundamentals and rich valuations would not be.
We will be seeing a lot of fake breakouts and suddenly the success ratio of technical set ups would go down. (3/n)
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27 Jun
Overwhelming response for the previous thread. However, I think people missed a crucial point there.
The calculation I have done is for staying profitable after taking a reasonable risk.

As humans, we don’t have the tendency to stop. Growth is life. And that is desired.

(1/n)
However, you first learn to crawl. And then walk. Then run.
If you are doing 25%+ p.a. on a consistent basis - atleast for 3 consecutive years, then you are free to explore higher horizon of returns. You have capital and skills, then target higher returns by all means. (2/n)
No one is going to stop you from doing that.
But how many twitter traders (or any trader for that matter) can truthfully claim that?
Half of them are low on capital and almost other half is low on skills. But all of us want to earn 50%+ p.a. (3/n)
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26 Jun
Making β‚Ή5000 on a 10L account on weekly index expiries need 200 BankNifty points.
Do it with 4 lots and one just need to make 50 points per lot in a week - 10 points per lot per day.
52 Expiries in a year and without compounding you can make 26% on your capital in a year.
Staying profitable is that simple.
But problem is we want to make 50,000 per week on 10L or 10,000 per week on 1L ... yes thats how disproportionate and illogical our expectations are about trading income.
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Trading is a game against people who themselves are using their wit to make profits by outsmarting other people. I outsmart you to make a living and vice versa. And only the real smarts survive. We are not fulfilling any basic need that has room to grow as population grows (3/n)
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8 Jun
#BPCL : Have been running strategies on BPCL since Mid March.
Stock has been quite volatile as the news around its divestment has been volatile. But since it was certain that govt would not be selling it cheap as this is one of the better managed PSUs .. (1/n)
... And there would be several transactions to make it's structure simpler for a prospective buyer to evaluate. That would mean selling off few subsidiaries which would bring in cash and that cash would be distributed to the share holders.
(2/n)
So, I bought 1800 shares of BPCL in March and pledged them to generate margins.
Using a part of those margins sold a call to make some monthly income till the plan plays out.
(3/n)
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5 Jun
What can be a low capital, low risk, high reward strategy on ITC on the upside

And a low capital, low risk and high reward strategy on Adani Ent on the downside?

Can be a combination of Cash shares + F&O

Rollover allowed.

Share yours. Will share mine at the end.
Capital reqd. 2.87L
Actual numbers may vary a bit, but the risk: reward would be simply mindblowing! Image
Brown dotted line shows the P&L at expiry. In this case, it will be June expiry.
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14 May
1. Straddle vs Triple Straddle: Is there a benefit?

Data says, yes. Small benefit but there is some benefit. Especially when it comes to sharp moves on one side (Gap UP/Down) - Triple straddle stands better than a single straddle.
2. Single straddle at 32200 for May 20 expiry : 6Lots
Triple straddles at 32200, 32600 and 31700 : 2 Lots each.

At the center there is not much diff between the two. Similar Greeks (Theta & Vega mainly)

But look at the payoff profile. Triple straddle provides a much ...
3. ...Distributed profile which means the payout at expiry is not concentrated at one single point like a single straddle, but is spread over a range. Something like a strangle.

Psychologically, that gives comfort during a little extra volatility in the markets, ...
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