@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney Marxism killed millions. You have no moral compass if you contest that.
And no, that was an EXAMPLE. I can give you shitloads more; including more than 50% of docs that joined Nazi party EARLY. I'm saying they CAN have terrible moral compasses. There's a reason for this: the
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney discipline of science can be very narrow focussed: that is its nature. You have a hypothesis and test for THAT, to exclusion of other factors. Works for chemistry; doesn't work for complex systems like medicine, & environment unless you consider OTHER consequences. Also,
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney eg nurses used to have to have O level history; because that's a discipline that is more like DETECTIVE work than hypothesis testing. One of things a detective does btw, is look at suspects motivation; and historically, SO MANY scientists have been compromised by money & ideology
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney that it isn't even defensible to suggest otherwise. They need to be kept on a leash re morality, & we know this from a plethora of historical & literature/movie egs from Frankenstein to the whole 'mad' scientist term, to Nazis & eg Tuskegee. The problem is often SO narrow is
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney their focus, they haven't got a sooby do about the wider world, and having been on a pub quiz team with scientists, I can tell you their general knowledge is often appalling (never won)! This leads them to VERY naïve world views, thus combined with arrogance because in
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney their fields they may be genius, they have tendency to think their world view also right. And in medical & environment science, this can be dangerously simplistic, & combined with 'greater good' syndrome, enable to EXCUSE atrocities in name of such. Nazi pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23040706/
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney doctors didn't SATRT as evil bastards, they THOUGHT what they were doing was in the greater good; and some even indignant at Nuremberg that it was; accepting of the damage caused for 'greater good'. So they can have an arrogance that allows them to cross moral boundaries. This
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney can even in mildest form involve justifying lies; and ironically Horton himself points this out frequently. I personally became awake to this when realising the BLATANT PSEUDOSCENCE of 'Food Systems' btw, which enables obvious fraudulent accounting. Read here if you doubt it; and
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney again, its an eg of simplistic focus not being able to see the whole picture; so it becomes actually LAUGHABLE to anyone with wider experience, even with zilch scientific training. So with this particular 'science' naturally I wanted to know who was threadreaderapp.com/thread/1396976…
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney behind it all as it is clearly fraudulent. So, its Gates, Wellcome, Grantham & other WEF agents, all of course conflict of interest. Now their money is funding colossal amount of science, but only that which supports their agendas. And low and behold there's Wellcome & Gates
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney the principal players behind the Covid response. Its Farrar (head Wellcome) & Gates that formed CEPI for starters. And the support of 'lockdown' theory. As their ONLY evidence that this worked pointed to China, which was SO obviously a crock from start & remains so, & indeed
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney The ONLY point at which it MAY have been contained by lockdowns was the time when Gates funded WHO assured everyone it was NOT infectious with a lovely little COMMUNIST CHINESE FLAG & IGNORED Taiwan evidence to contrary. This isn't science; its politics. Now where does Farrar
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney and his CEPI goons come in to this? (many of whom are NOT medical or scientists eg Jane Halton behind much of the authoritarian response in Australia). Do I think Farrar an EVIL man? No, I think he was used to working in communist Vietnam with the state valuing him as a leader
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney re public health policy, & obviously he thought himself working for greater good & would come out of it a hero; after all they awarded him the Ho Chi Minh medal; However SO arrogant has he become, he engaged in stifling the Wuhan lab origin along with dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9…
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney Fauci & Daszak of the Eco Health Alliance; an org which obviously is ideologically compromised and was determined to put the blame on livestock. A joke he was involved in the Investigation team subsequently when he should be considered a suspect. But WHAT person, interested in
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney quest for truth, sanction stifling of debate on the matter? Something we now KNOW the most likely cause of the outbreak given no natural vector has been found. And so, what they did was stick with their determination to pin it on bat soup & unregulated animal food; either by
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney alliance with Daszak's bonkers ideas (in which case they should all be considered suspects in bio terrorism imho), or by sheer stubbornness, Either way, it demonstrates that scientists can be compromised re an arbiter of truth; and biased to exclusion of other causes (whatever
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney the issue it can become banging and banging a square hole in to a round peg and when people say its failing your test, they say we need a bigger hammer). Thus Farrar & Fauci, though they may have been decent people at some point, have become tyrants dailymail.co.uk/debate/article…
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney And the more the narrative fails, the bigger the hammer gets. So, I mean we are HERE re vaccine passports. Anybody trying to support this will find themselves with the cognitive dissonance that the guy is parodying . The narrative MAKES NO SENSE yet
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney of course many Gates funded 'scientists' & people like Farrar will KNOW this; it was never the intention to stop the virus it was always Universal digital ID through health fear was the end game. So they let it continue: to their eternal shame, and nothing but evil will come of
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney it despite them believing it perhaps for greater good necessary to tell some porkies. But will bring them down, and destroy the reputation of science for generations sadly. Lockdowns, well that was NEVER anything scientific anyway, as it has no precedent, and swiftly showed
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney itself
1. To be an abject failure and still is except in the fairytale world of China, to prevent the spread
2. to cause massive collateral damage, when it is KNOWN that poverty & despair inflicted on millions
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney (during greatest upward transfer wealth history
Wellcome even heavy invested Amazon & CCP businesses) through lockdown livelihood destruction MASSES evidence linked to most serious adverse health outcomes across ALL ages when covid av age death 80+ with co morbidities. Take
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney Japan for eg. And where Covid claimed the lives of those 80 yr olds; BIG PUBLIC HEALTH interventions are responsible for deaths of all these young healthy women, mostly working class btw tourism, retail, hospitality etc
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney So this is on THEM. It's murder, when they KNEW it would do this : again they justify it in the arrogant belief the greater good will be served if their failed lockdown for blackmail to vaccine mandate works to eradicate the virus, The WORST thing is about such collateral damage
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney acceptance is clear when one thinks of 'expert' opinion in another area. Military experts may eg advice bombing, knowing there will be collateral damage for greater good. BUT a politicians job is to say no, that amount is unacceptable. Take Hiroshima eg: that was totally
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney unacceptable, the civilian casualties, though it could be argued it saved more lives in the long run, few would agree with what the cost was. BUT at least in that case, it DID bring the war to an end. The nuclear option of Lockodwns has NOT brought the war with covid to an end,
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney and the collateral damages (250 million lost livelihoods globally. poverty & despair, now millions faced with permanent exclusion from society etc by vaxx mandates, ARE a Crime Against Humanity caused by HUMAN intervention by Bog Public Health. They MUST face justice for what
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney done and continue to do, for an insanely failed experiment, for 'greater good'. #Nuremberg2 MUST COME at some point. Trust scientists? Not those that sanctioned any of this; and it must NEVER happen again so they need to be brought to justice along with the WEF/politicians
@mauveTriforce @Gerard39delaney What beggars belief, is how the world's wealthy elites & most powerful corporations whose agendas all this has served, have so totally hoodwinked the left wing, as a Corporatist (Fascist) coup is underway in pain sight. You defend those they paid to do it.

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