8/ The attack rate on the outbreaks from the scientific literature (famous restaurant, choirs, buses, call center, meat packing, schools...) falls in line with Hr.
9/ So not a mystery where the outbreaks happen, we know the conditions that favor them (same as 3 Cs of Japan or many other studies: nature.com/articles/s4158…).
But very random whether an outbreak will happen, depending on infrequent highly infective individuals being present
10/ Definitely not surprising that cars and buses can have a lot of outbreaks, since they are small "rooms" with significant time spent there, and many of them are poorly ventilated
12/ We have a short paper under review where we propose that Hr should be calculated for all indoor public spaces and posted (for typical use without mitigations, with various mitigations). And then use that to guide mitigations, occupancy etc.
13/ Now, given how slow Public Health has been to accept airborne transmission during the pandemic, I won't hold my breath till this approach or something like it is put in place widely.
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2/ "A disease can be endemic and both widespread & deadly. Malaria killed more than 600,000 ppl in 2020. 10M fell ill with tuberculosis that same year & 1.5M died. Endemic certainly does not mean that evolution has somehow tamed a pathogen so that life simply returns to ‘normal’"
3/ "There is a widespread, rosy misconception that viruses evolve to become more benign. This is not the case: there is no predestined evolutionary outcome for virus to become more benign, especially ones, such as SARS-CoV-2, in which most transmission happens bf severe disease"
Of course children need masks. COVID is not a cold. It is a neurotropic virus, can go into the brain and lots of other organs. 1000 children dead in US, millions of kids w/ #LongCovidKids, millions have lost parents.
Wearing mask is not hard for kids, they forget about it.
1/ Sobre la transmisión de virus a muy gran distancia, como decía este señor que podía explicar que hubiera e.g. más casos en Cataluña vs. otras comunidades.
He dicho que es una tontería, y lo mantengo. Explico algunos detalles aquí:
2/ Esta es una pandemia DE INTERIORES. El virus se transmite por el aire, pero sobre todo hablando cerca o al compartir una habitación (como todos los casos de superpropagación), como en la imagen.
3/ Hay bastantes casos documentados de transmisión por el aire a más distancia en interiores (sin estar en la misma habitación al mismo tiempo), por ejemplo en hoteles de cuarentena en Nueva Zelanda, Hong Kong etc. Como este caso por flujos bajo puertas:
3/ Miasma theory dominates till mid to late 1800s:
Cholera, Puerperal Fever, and Malaria (literally "Bad Air" in medieval Italian) were thought to transmit through the air. But demonstrated to transmit via water, hands, and mosquitos, respectively.
- Note ventilation rate is relatively high, most schools don't meet it
- Leads to CO2 = 1720 ppm, while some of your colleagues in the UK say it is fine if it is < 5000 ppm
Vent rate for 5000 ppm is 1 l/s/p, NOT 5
@CIBSE_NatVent With 5 l/s/p, adding the RELATIVELY SMALL cleaner with CADR = 100 l/s (ACH = 2.4 on cell B31) the risk goes down 30%
With an EXPONENTIALLY growing disease, that's a lot, because it is 30% off EACH GENERATION. I.e. compound interest
@CIBSE_NatVent With the "barely acceptable according to some UK experts" case with 4999 ppm CO2 (~1 l/s/p), then adding that smaller air cleaner reduces the risk 45%.
I would definitely prefer to have my son in a class with the cleaner than without the cleaner