For those of you saying that civilians near an ISIS leader deserved to die or that their death is their own fault, your knee jerk point of view is mostly a function of long term exposure to neocon political theory.
Until you know what the imminent threat was that drove the decision to launch this attack yesterday, it is impossible to know whether the killing of civilians was a worthy trade off to killing a leader of ISIS.
If the position is that killing leaders of ISIS is of such importance and value that civilian death is always an acceptable trade off then these attacks should be much more frequent.
The decision to attack shouldn’t just be a function of knowing where a person is but also an assessment of the collateral damage potentially done in our attempt to accomplish the outcome.
When Trump took the shackles off our military in Syria and empowered them to destroy ISIS and end the caliphate there existed both the threat of ISIS gaining a stronghold in the Middle East and the fact that the civilian populations had been effectively kidnapped.
So there are circumstances where some civilian death is terribly unfortunate but an acceptable price to pay given the risks of inaction.
But just because a person is a leader of ISIS in today’s circumstances isn’t enough to justify civilian casualties. Other elements must be present and we don’t know whether they were.
What was the imminent threat that motivated the Biden administration to act yesterday? Where they aware that this person was strapped with explosives? Was it deemed highly likely that when confronted he would detonate himself?
Ultimately was this just another action in a desperate attempt to revive Biden’s estimation in the eyes of the American public or was there a real imminent danger that made acting now necessary assuming we knew the high likely of civilian casualties?
Some say “if civilians were around an ISIS leader then their death is their own fault”. This point of view assumes that these civilians were aware this was an ISIS leader and that they had some choice about being around him.
As long as we knee jerk how great it is when we take arbitrary actions around the world that lead to the murder of civilians, as also happened during the Afghanistan withdrawal, we will be led by psychopaths seeking to embroil us in endless wars.
This isn’t an argument for permanent inaction. It is to say that we need to have a much higher standard for when we praise actions particularly if they include civilian deaths.

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with The Reckoning 💥

The Reckoning 💥 Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @sethjlevy

Jan 18
Feels like a good day to bbq! Image
So far so good! Image
Headed into the foil wrap for a bit. Image
Read 5 tweets
Jan 9
Pardon my French but fuck all of these people.

Not those that died. Of course. I mean the absolute hacks manipulating people’s emotions for the last year because they hated Donald Trump.

F every last one of them.
The facts are actually even more skewed than the CDC Director described. Because of those 75% of people with four comorbidities, 80% or more were ice 80 years old.

So the Covid death rate for those healthy and under 60 was basically zero. Extraordinarily small.
Because when they talk about the overall death rate, in every age bracket, they include those that were extremely ill already. Once you strip away the morbidly obese and those with four comorbidities the “true” death rate is basically zero.
Read 4 tweets
Jan 3
@SuitableAlias Here’s the better analogy.

A company has brought a product to market called vax-bestos. They claim it insulates and prevents fires. Benefits that will clearly save lives in the short term. The FDA approved this product based on short term studies.
@SuitableAlias As a result, this product has been put in buildings everywhere. One expert has concerns that there is potential that vax-bestos could cause cancer but since there are no long term studies it is impossible to know if this line voice is correct.
@SuitableAlias Instead of allowing this lone voice, an unquestioned expert in carcinology, the central authorities (Twitter) decide it is too dangerous in the short term to let people die of fires or cold and, since this sole voice may create skepticism leading to death, they ban him.
Read 5 tweets
Dec 25, 2021
Ok so tomorrow I’m making pork rib roast “carnitas” style with a salsa verde.

Wish me luck!
Ok so here’s how it looked coming off the grill for a final sear…
Read 5 tweets
Dec 9, 2021
Let’s for the sake of argument assume Jack’s claim is accurate and definitive.

Still it’s up to Trump whether he runs.

And it’s abundantly clear from the data that if he runs, he will win the nomination.

So ultimately this claim has zero affect on outcomes.
The DeSantis supporters are engaged in a redux of the 2016 meme that the Dems are hoping for Trump to run based on his vanity because it assures them the Whitehouse. And it’s corollary that Trump doesn’t mind destroying Republican chances.
Read 8 tweets
Nov 12, 2021
Here is my view of where we came from and where we are.

From right after Trump’s victory in 2016 the American public was inundated with “reporting” about Trump’s potential collusion with Russia. 1/13
Many Trump supporters immediately rejected the notion based on our views of Trump and our understanding of how he played the game of politics, ongoingly baiting the other side into growing levels of insane analysis of him and his motives. 2/13
However, they had the supposed evidence and at that point we had effectively seen none of it.

From that point on, as every drip of information came out, this corner of Twitter grabbed onto it like dogs on a bone. Chewing through it and seeking to interpret how it fit. 3/13
Read 13 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Don't want to be a Premium member but still want to support us?

Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

:(