VLCC scrubber saving 9k
Eco saving 15ton x750usd= 11k
In motion 80% (hidden additional advantage is that Eco's will have less standstill)
16k usd daily advantage
Advantage increases in a better market with speed causing higher consumption
Means less bleeding while wait for upturn
This chart is more than VLCCs it is "tankers" but it illustrates the point where we soon have no orderbook and beyond "old tankers savior Iran" faces this every quarter. And this is +20y, that is really scrapping material. Y-day we saw 2 Capes 19y scrap in arguably a good market
The above is a chart showing when and number of tankers that have to do what is a very expensive dry dock. A very natural end date for a +20y tanker if you do not have the Biden trade anymore.
Compares to the orderbook post this year:
VLCC & Suezmax being basically nothing and with re-sales and ECOs being much cheaper than yard prices, we will soon have a zero for 2025 as well.
Biden's policy of Sanctions Without Enforcement is not normal. We very likely have a situation where huge old environmental threats currently do not do these normal yard visits or insurance. Tanker bears ignore this and think the vessels post sanctions are normal vessels.
As I understand it, these vessels are not accepted in China. What they do are instead secret huge offshore oil transfers to acceptable vessels that then go to the end customer.
Tanker bears still think these +20y vessels are a normal accepted part of the fleet going forward.
"If they have not scrapped at 20 we must be in a new normal and they will not scrap at 22 either. The fleet has grown!"
That is the logic that is used.
I instead argue the only new that is coming is even harder pressure on old ships with IMO2023.
Biden trade is the key.
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New kid on the block is Eagle, small dry bulk ships.
Not all ECO but decent and it is really in the large ship segments ECO is most important. Top mgt without historical issues.
Besides its ECO share, most ships are also scrubber fitted. The company is making an absurd amount of money at current rates from Q3 it should be viewed as heavily spot and that means trading on something like P/E 1.3 as everything above 10k per day is Earnings on 53 vessels.
I am not saying these 32k per day will stay the coming year. But I am saying that so far they seem quite sticky and not so volatile. To some extent this is probably due to both being impacted but the same distortions as containers (without having that awful orderbook) +
$NMM trades at 35% of NAV. The logical thing, a money machine... would be to sell vessels and buy back stocks. The company instantly would tripple its money doing that.
Navios instead does the opposite.
Shocking seeing this presented as positive.
From the moment I mentioned Navios here, buying the late Navios containers, I pointed out that this is not a normal company. It really REALLY deserves to trade at a discount. It is among the worst you find in shipping when it comes to managements not being aligned with minority
People can absolutely and probably should speculate in $NMM because it is such a great setup. But everyone should also understand that it is not a company working for YOU. And do not say shipping is horrible if U loose money on unpleasant stuff Navios does.
No position currently
Taseko is lower risk because it already has very profitable and stable mine up and running (understand that last quarters were distorted from highgrading during covid followed by lowgrading as copper recovered).
Next big de-risker is when Florence starts according to plan.
Florence is fully financed and will be a silly profitable mine throwing off gigantic amounts of cashflow. This will then make Yellowhead Capex fairly easy to finance gradually starting say Autumn 2023.
IF New Prosperity re emerges that could replace Yellowhead as next after Florence and all my calculations would be wildly off. Copper production could be as planned but company cost would negative per pound.
In other words, what is the bull market scenario and upside we Could see if copper does indeed move to 15 usd per pound?
I always do these napkin calculations rather than detailed excel spread sheet. #NotTP
What the market miss to price in when it comes to Taseko is that it is perhaps the copper producer with the largest pipeline to grow vs current production.
IF we continue to move towards super profits due to electrification and companies are drowning in cash... which companies
have the largest pipeline of projects to grow production coming 5y? And hence the largest non financial (free) leverage for us to the bull market?
Taseko has crazy much such leverage. Below is the low hanging fruit that would trigger at 4.50 usd copper...
What I have learned over the years is that good companies are often better than they look and bad companies are often worse than they look.
I have presented the case with SD for Capstone but when you look at this chart and see the potential of 440m pounds (everything under 70%
kept share of SD is old and unrealistic imo) And this possibly at a total cashcost of zero if iron ore, cobalt, sulphur & silver stays strong... but understand that from my listening of conf calls I think some serious growth through aquisition of old closed assets from majors is
brewing in Capstone. In fact the CEO put it something like this: Those negotiations and SD production decision is the most important for 2021.
The majors have no mill and assets are too small for them but for CS it could AGAIN be transformational... and again.. you get this free
$CS Capstone Santo Domingo project:
When we probably face a very strong price cycle I like mines with many different metals where 1-2 are treated as offsetting credit on cost.
What you get then is basically both higher metal price AND lower cost (due to more valuable credit).
SD in Chile looks Great... but the point is that it could be much better than that. It could be profitable like few other copper mines because it is:
Copper (3 vs 4.5) +
- Top Q 65% iron ore (80 vs 220)
- World class cobalt (20 vs 25)
- Gold (cashed to build mine)
- Sulphur
So this is the starting point and then you can start the fun of thinking where the cash cost would be if for example iron ore holds up reasonable. Know that 65% iron ore is premium vs the good stuff (62%).