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Apr 3 32 tweets 25 min read
Last week we had #MeelKePatthar Quiz-01 Elimination Round.. As we gear up for finals here is a long #thread on Results & Answers.

There were 77 registered entries for the prelim round of quiz of which 68 people participated

@Adipant & @Vibhendu jointly emerged as TOP scorers
2nd Spot was shared by @niketan_r @indranath @paddythemuse @ShiivZ

The quiz questions are available in the link but anyway sharing d answers (random order) & will also try to bring some value in the answers in d thread, with interesting answers received…
@niketan_r @indranath @paddythemuse @ShiivZ Q09 was the toughest question of the lot [Who mentored Shankar Jaikishan during making of their debut Barsaat] & only two @ChhatrasalSingh & @anandsivasankar gave the correct Answer: Husnlal-Bhagatram - Shankar had assisted them in early yrs, so they came for review/suggestions Image
The most incorrect answer to Q09 had Ram Ganguly as the answer followed by AnilBiswas & Naushad.
#Barsaat surely had Ganguly as original MD, but RajKapoor threw him out of the film for integrity/trust issues. Destity made way for his assts SJ as debutant MD #MeelKePetthar #Quiz Image
A05. MD: AR Rahman

- The beautiful Holi song is composed by A.R. Rehman for one of his finest yet under discussed soundtracks post 2000, Water (2005). A glimpse of Seema Biswas was key for many to identify the muted song. 40% of participants got it right #MeelKePetthar #Quiz
Some of the interesting incorrect answers for Q05 (AR Rahman) were Mithoon, Khayyam, Naushad, Rajesh Roshan & Vanraj Bhatia

Some tried to make it interesting with "Correct Answer" like Dileep Kumar 😀😀 - Also gave partial points for Mychael Danna/Water #MeelKePetthar #Quiz ImageImage
A04. Naukri (1978) based on story of Salil Chowdhury with Music by RD Burman. Seems like another tough question as 25% got it right

Shagird, Kinaara, Achanak, Amar Ppem were some interesting incorrect answers #Pancham #Salilda

#MeelKePetthar #Quiz ImageImageImage
The original Q04 was slightly different Two different films with same name of Salil da in different capacity..

Salil da did Bimal Roy's Naukri way back in early 50s & had a terrific score, but didn't compose for 70s Naukri
(prob as shifted to Kolkata)

A07. Gujarati Poet Raghunath Brahmbhatt was credited as main writer for Mughal-E-Azam's "Mohe Panghat Pe Nandlal" after a long fight with producers by his grandson

The original bandish is composed by Pt. BindadinMaharah of Wajid AliShah court (& Grand uncle of Pt. Birju Maharaj) Image
Poet Raghunath wrote the version that was used in the film for a Gujarati play titled Chhatra Vijay way back in 1917 & was used in Mughal-E-Azam

an the Bandish has been recorded by many artists in 30s & 40s


News:… Image
A10. Saraswati Devi one of the earliest female music directors. She was a Parsi & her original name was Khurshid Minosher Homji -

Easier one as Almost 76% got it correct @FagunB @msirisha02 @Saurab_nair @ohalwai #MeelKePetthar #Quiz

#Kishoreda fav : Image
A06. Mandolin - Laxmikant was a Child Prodigy and pplayed Mandolin in a Lata Mangeshkar concert at the age of just 10.

Almost 35% of all, got it wrong as Violin prob as they read the question for Pyarelal ji who was a Violin expert.

Laxmikant for SDB : ImageImage
A12. Baiju Bawra.. Picked a lesser discussed song from one of the finest gems of Hindi Film Music by Naushad
#MeelkaPatthar takes an analytical look on how Baiju Bawwra became the peak of Naushad's creativity which may go against popular opinions. He continued to grow in stature with Big Films even after but for the Creative part Baiju Bawra was the best ImageImage
A13. Saawan ke nazaare hain - Khajaanchi - Ghulam Haider

The Cycle song was one of the first big hits from Punjab School by Master Ghulam Haider, a trend setter for the 40s & made Ramola a big star overnight.

Check : ImageImage
A01. Ustad Jhande Khan - Guru of Khemchand Prakash & Naushad who assisted him in earlier years

Kidar Sharma's Chitralekha (1941) is a feat for Jhande Khan saab as he composed all the songs in the same raag Bhairavi. Image
A02. Seven - As per available records & documentation [Hindi film Geet Kosh by Harmandir Singh Hamraz], the first ever Hindustani talkie film Aalam Aara (1931) had seven songs recorded by Firoz Shah Mistry, the lyricist information is still not available as the film is lost. Image
A07. Aalam Aara is lost but in 1981-82, its heroine Zubeida recounted from her memory the experience of singing in the film for a show titled "Mortal Men Immortal Memories" on 50 yrs of Talkies, sponsored by Tata Oil Mill directed by Siddarth Kak & presented by @AzmiShabana
Will Continue the thread tomorrow, but here is the updated Qualifying positions for the Finals for #MeelkePatthar Quiz on next weekend. Image
The following people will be part of Backup [in case of unavailability of some participants for live final]. There is another list of Live Zoom Studio Audience, which will get Audience questions as well as the unanswered ones. Image
Some more answers from #MeelkePatthar quiz that were pending.. The answer #thread continues
A03 - Which MD has collaborated most with #sahir for released films?

Technically this has two correct answers for the unintended ambiguity in question framing

Ravi - 19 Films (130Songs)
SD Burman 139 Songs (18 Films)

Source the amazing website @myswar ImageImage
Have given points for both Ravi & SDB as correct answers [Most collaborated in Films/Songs]

Interestingly N. Dutta is standing quite closer & just behind them

N Dutta - 18 Films (116 Songs) [not including Unreleased like Picnic as had kept them out of scope]

@anvaya_anand Image
A15. Poet Neeraj's rare screen appearance for the film Pehchaan(1970) in this song Paise ki pehchaan music by SJ. No authentic account of what made Neeraj to appear but he penned two popular songs including this & bas yahi apradh main har baar. #MeelkePatthar #Quiz @Guzzlerbear
A14. Seema (1971) - The only released film of #ShankarJaikishan-Gulzar as MD/Lyricist team. They were together in a few more films but not as music team

Seems #Gulzar sb was supposedly directing Seema in the beginning & had written 2 songs for the film

While SJ-Gulzar collaboration in #Seema is known for classic Jab bhi ye dil udaas hota hai, my fav is this Lori

ओस की बूंदों में जो बरसा करती थी
वो निंदिया अब दो नैनो से रूठ गयी

एक थी निन्दिया दो थे नैना
रात की जाई, शाम की बहना


A11. Moirarji Desai, the then Home Minister of Govt of Bombay banned Dilip Kumar & Noorjehan starred Jugnu

#BaburaoPatel in #FilmIndia review called it "Dirty, Disgusting & Vulgar" and requested Home Minister Moraraji to review who ordered a ban after watching the film. Image
Producers of the film even went on to address Morarji's as 'Moralji' as a protest for his moral code of conduct he set for the film makers. This also shows how powerful the man BabuRao Patel was.

Singer Mohd Rafi played role of Dilip Kumar in one of his few screen appearances ImageImageImageImage
A08. Laara Lappa one of the smashing hits of its times was composed by Music Director Vinod aka Eric Roberts for the film Ek Thi Ladki.

Call it ignorance as Most people identified MD as OP Nayyar. Much before Nayyar, Vinod has given some fascinating songs with Punjabi flavor
Vinod was highly talented but departed quite early at just 37. A chapter in #MeelkePatthar highlights his significance with song reccos.

His score of Chaman (1948) has Lata singing some beautiful Punjabi songs before she became a knwon voice.

Listen : Image
That's it for the Answers #thread on Elimination round of #MeelKePatthar #Quiz - The individual scores have been sent to the participants on their Mailbox.

Thank you all for your enthusiastic participation. Scheduling a Live Final soon and will see you all there
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