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Jun 18 7 tweets 6 min read
NYT headline and reporting again, with precision, nails key development in #January6thHearings.

I asked 8 former prosecutors, senior DOJ officials to analyze implications for Trump’s criminal liability.

NYT:
nytimes.com/2022/06/16/us/…

8 former DOJ:
justsecurity.org/82001/8-top-fo…

1/
2/
The scheme: Effort to pressure Pence.

The new evidence: Trump was told Pence would violate law if tried it. Trump pressed ahead anyway

Key federal offenses:

1. Obstruction
2. Conspiracy to defraud US
3. Conspiracy to Prevent an Officer from Discharging Duties, 18 USC § 372
3/ The third one – Conspiracy to Prevent an Officer from Discharging Duties – deserves special emphasis b/c it’s often overlooked in public commentary.

@emptywheel was very first, I am fairly sure, to identify its importance

DOJ charged Proud Boys and Oath Keepers with it.👇
4/ 8 former prosecutors, senior DOJ saw significance in #January6thCommittee's new evidence for one or more federal crimes.

To parse their analysis think about

threshold for DOJ investigation
how DOJ could develop/expand evidence
threshold for indictment and for jury to convict
5/ New evidence also erodes potential defenses:

@LBNewHaven: "any possible advice of counsel defense crumbles"
@KPNatsFan: "removes the possibility that he could argue he acted under the advice of counsel"
Stuart Gerson: "utterly negates any defense that…somehow lacked intent"
6/ Committee's new evidence helps DOJ w/this:

@BarbMcQuade:"DOJ should consider immunizing [Eastman, Meadows] to get their testimony"
@ChrisMatteiCT:"Prosecutors will likely seek the testimony of others…or Eastman’s testimony pursuant to a cooperation agreement and guilty plea"
7/7 Read the new evidence and each of the former DOJ officials' brief commentaries, and each analysis with its own nuance and insights.

@BarbMcQuade
@ChrisMatteiCT
@JenGRodgers
@JoyceWhiteVance
@KPNatsFan
@LBNewHaven
Mary McCord
Stuart M. Gerson

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More from @rgoodlaw

Jun 16
Key evidence on whether Trump “corruptly” obstructed congressional proceeding,18 USC §1512

Jan 4: Eastman, Trump’s apparent legal rep (co-conspirator, per judge Carter) admitted in front of Trump that Pence would have to violate federal law to enact their plan.

Jacob testimony.
2. As @KPNatsFan wrote:

"It is possible that the DOJ could elect to charge Trump with obstruction based solely on his own (and Eastman’s) efforts to pressure Pence to ignore his legal duties. A lead DOJ prosecutor verified the viability of that theory..."
justsecurity.org/81597/prosecut…
3. It was thanks to @joshgerstein's reporting in this piece👇that discussed the lead Justice Dept prosecutor's verifying the viability of this theory of liability for President Trump.

politico.com/news/2021/11/2…
Read 8 tweets
Jun 16
May come as a surprise to some. DOJ has criminal investigation into this part of #January6th: false alternate slate of electors.

Topic to be aired at today's #January6thHearings.

Here's my Timeline of Trump and his associates' connections to the scheme.

justsecurity.org/81939/timeline…
2. In May, federal prosecutors sent grand jury subpoenas to potential witnesses seeking their communications with “any member, employee or agent of Donald J. Trump” as well as their communications with the Trump campaign.

@kpolantz report👇

cnn.com/2022/05/26/pol…
3. On June 7, 2022, in a civil case, a federal district court judge described the alternate electors scheme as “a critical objective” of the criminal conspiracy in which President Donald Trump and lawyer John Eastman more likely than not engaged.

justsecurity.org/wp-content/upl…
Read 7 tweets
Jun 12
I spoke with the Wall Street Journal’s @pattersonscott et al about #January6thCommitteeHearings — including whether builds pressure on Justice Department to act.

Notable (and respectful) differing views with @RDEliason on this topic.

wsj.com/articles/jan-6…
2. Here’s the differing views.👇
3. @RDEliason says “prosecutors have access to much of the same information.”

True. If they’re already investigating it. Fairly recent reporting suggests DOJ has yet to interview these same witnesses.

DOJ also asked Committee for the transcripts but Chair said: no/not yet.
Read 4 tweets
Jun 9
With news that Georgia Republicans Brad Raffensperger and Gabe Sterling are slated to testify before #January6thCommittee (via @TamarHallerman @TIAreports)

Recall @GabrielSterling's unfortunately prescient warning to President Trump on Dec. 1, 2020.👇
2. Shortly before Sterling's remarks, "people who identified themselves to police as Oath Keepers – a far-right militia group that has supported Trump’s bid to overturn the election – were found outside the Raffenspergers’ home."

@LindaSoReports
reuters.com/article/us-usa…
3/3. The writing was on the wall.

Former White House official (VP Pence advisor) @OliviaTroye on December 28, 2020:

“I'm actually very concerned that there will be violence on January 6th because the president himself encourages it.”

w/ @CapehartJ
Read 4 tweets
Jun 8
With news of Trump WH Counsel Pat Cipollone in talks w/#January6thCommittee to publicly testify, reminder (@EricSchmittNYT @maggieNYT report)👇

In urging Trump to defuse situation, Cipollone warned Trump he could face legal liability for having urged the march on the Capitol

1/
2/ When Trump considered issuing preemptive pardons for Meadows, Giuliani, and himself, Cipollone reportedly warned that could constitute obstruction of justice.

He threatened to resign in a dramatic public way.

Trump backed down.

justsecurity.org/77681/mark-mea…
3/ When Mark Meadows and Rudy Giuliani discussed scheme for alternate slate of electors, Cipollone told them it was not legally sound.

via Meadows' aide, Cassidy Hutchinson's transcribed interview with Select Committee

justsecurity.org/wp-content/upl…
Read 6 tweets
Jun 7
With news that Trump’s Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen has been invited to testify in #January6thCommitteeHearings (via @TheNLJ @AGoudsward)

Must read @BarbMcQuade’s nuanced analysis “Witnesses with Baggage”👇

justsecurity.org/81798/witnesse…
2. Rosen can provide many insights including into this scheme that went to the heart of Trump-Meadows-Clark’s attempt to use the Justice Department to overturn the election.

A key federal criminal statute: 18 USC §610, Political Coercion Act

justsecurity.org/77994/doj-shou…
3. CNN reports: #January6thCommittee has also invited Trump acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue to testify.

@BarbMcQuade assessed Donoghue's potential testimony in her analysis of "witnesses with baggage."

Here's photo of under-reported New Year's Eve meeting.👇
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