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good morning☀️happy Sunday! Another Oz fest on #Insiders today with 9fax (AFR) columnist Jennifer Hewett, murdoch (Oz) columnist Peter van Onselen and murdoch (Oz) political reporter Sarah Ison. The interview is with Home Affairs minister Claire O’Neil.

opening spiel: data dump, Russian hackers, has the federal government DONE ENOUGH to ensure our data is safe? #Insiders

editorialising on the “urgent need” to strengthen defences against hackers. Albanese attending conferences and meetings overseas, a weirdly critical narrative ABC has been pushing this week. The IR bill and cross bench vote. #Insiders

the montage is on the IR bill. Albanese says his government has a mandate to increase wages, the bit Speers has a gripe with. Anyway. The “contentious” and “extreme” (😂😂) bill passed the lower house because the government has the numbers. #Insiders

#MakingNews an AFP taskforce to investigate data hacks and dumps. The Bali G20 summit, which Albanese will apparently not attend - which, like attending international summits, is also bad. #Insiders

also #MakingNews is the Xi-Biden side meeting and it is “unclear” if Albanese will get a side meeting with Prez Xi (also bad). #Insiders

panel. Data hacking. Ison starts by saying how she logs into her phone and Speers tells us how he logs into his phone. Does Medibank have two factor authentication? No. The Russians. #Insiders

is that a fail, Pete?
What do you mean? asks “Pete”.
That Medibank does not have two-factor authentication? Oh yes multiple fails, says van Onselen, who is not blaming Labor. Who is to blame he does not mention. #Insiders

corporate failure fines to increase from $2 million (“paltry”, Speers calls this) to $50 million. Hewitt says companies have to do better and so do individuals, who she perceives as having some kind of choice about what information we “hand over”. #Insiders

something about companies exempting themselves from privacy laws, about which I know nothing. Van Onselen explains how private corporations get around privacy law and says “both major parties do it” (?) #Insiders

there are particular problems here because new laws will make it easier for non-financial institutions to get access to data with “open banking” (also something I am not across) and van Onselen says government has to do more. #Insiders

cost to small businesses, says Ison. There is a cybercrime reported every seven minutes, she says, and reckons Medibank did not have insurance because it was unaffordable [paraphrased] #Insiders

make data on-selling illegal, says van Onselen. Something about not paying the ransom from Speers. What about when entire businesses are destroyed, says Hewitt. The #Insiders are very exercised about this. Cracking pace here. #Insiders

AFP Commish Kershaw on Russian hackers. Boot them out? No. We need open dialogue - with Russia - which we don’t have, says van Onselen. It is easy for governments to say look over there [at corporate failures, I think] not at what we’re doing, Hewitt says. #Insiders

clip of Kershaw to segue to the interview. O’Neil says the new laws/taskforce are not about waiting for a crime to happen and police responding. It is pro-active (she uses the “hunting down” rhetoric repeatedly) #Insiders

the hackers are being “harboured” by foreign governments as it is not just Russia, says O’Neil and she claims the government has done more in three months than was done in the last three years. The attacks are relentless, she says. #insiders

NAB is subject to 50 million cyber attacks a month. The ATO, 3 million. This is a new level of national security, cybercrime facing Australia says O’Neil. (Clearly the cyberattack natsec rhetoric is seen as a winner here - Ed). #Insiders

we need to come together as a country to help this, it is a global problem, 2022 has been a big wake up and we have to do better, wake up from our cyber slumber, she will not offer running commentary on the “sophistication” of the attacks says O’Neil. #Insiders

will there be fines? O’Neil says we have to work together and the privacy commissioner will decide on fines if Optus and Medibank did not do due diligence on cyber defences [paraphrased] #Insiders

should ransomware parents be made illegal? O’Neil says Medibank were right to not pay because the hackers are unlikely to delete data. So, illegal to pay ransoms? repeats Speers twice more. He clearly subscribed to the “making illegal = make it stop” school of delusion. #Insiders

visas. It is very bureaucratic, says O’Neil. We need to recruit a caring workforce from around the world, she says. More “working together as a country” messaging. The last decade was about keeping people out, now we want to invite people in, says O’Neil. #Insiders

the promise to abolish TPVs. She says those on TPVs need permanency and certainty. When? O’Neil says it will be done calmly and methodically. But when? repeats Speers. What about the 9,000 people without certainty? O’Neil says they will work thru the issues over time #Insiders

how about using the immigration minister as a fundraising draw card to rattle the tin from ethnic communities? It is part of their job as MPs says O’Neil. She is not sure why fundraising is garnering media attention, she says. #Insiders

Speers repeats claims promoted by murdoch and others about what “western Sydney” thinks. Drink. #Insiders

she has talked to Di Li about community concerns, says O’Neil. Why don’t you go to western Sydney? asks Speers. Where would we western Sydneysiders be without our champion David Speers eh. #Insiders

back to panel. We all need to share blame? There was stronger language on Optus than Medibank? This seems to be about how sophisticated - and therefore preventable - is the hacker operation. #Insiders

there was a line about co-operation, and humility, the panel note. Yes, the minister did emphasise conciliatory working to ether a LOT (Ed) #Insiders

IR. Speers wants to drum up conflict about the mandate claim. Hewitt agrees that that the IR bill does not “reflect the mandate”. She calls the bill “extreme”. And that old fave, “complicated”. This is the “bosses paying workers more money is complex” line. It is not. #Insiders

we know a Labor government will pass Labor IR laws, says van Onselen unless they explicitly rule it out. Hewitt calls wage rises (“getting wages moving”) a slogan. It is codifying a POLICY into LAW. #Insiders

small business scare campaign on multi-employer bargaining. Clip of Pocock saying he is looking at the bill closely. Speers says it looks like passing the Senate. Van Onselen says “the union movement supports the Labor Party” meaning the GOVERNMENT is passing IR laws #Insiders

feminised industries. Hewitt says oh everybody says child care workers are not paid enough (fact check: child care workers are not paid enough) and thus parents will have to pay more or we need higher government subsidies. No word on the role of bosses paying workers. #Insiders

business are right to be totally suspicious (of having to move some of the income generated by workers out of the profit column and into the wages column) says Hewitt. #Insiders

clip of Chalmers, I think, I only caught his voice, and on to the maybe Xi meeting. Clip of Albanese saying there are no pre-conditions for a meeting and “we will co-operate with China where we can” #insiders

first China-Aust leader meeting in six years, since Malcolm Turnbull, says Speers to Hewitt. It might lead to softening of trade sanctions? Ison says it is happening in the background, we will hear about the wine next year, there is $20 billion worth of sanctions. #Insiders

we blather a bit about atmospherics. One (Aust-China leaders) meeting will not change the sanctions overnight but will change the dynamic. They can pick up the phone. #Insiders

the too many trips/he should go to Egypt narrative. Van Onselen test drives a murdochian tabloid type slogan to mock [checks notes] a national leader attending international meetings, including on climate catastrophe. #Insiders

it is a cheap attack line, says Speers, and not going puts at risk our desire to host the next COP on climate. Hewitt agrees “it” (the prime ministerial travel narrative) is a cheap attack but also nothing really came from the previous climate COP. #Insiders

clip of Dutton demanding that the Australian government promise to not compensate low income countries whose pops are bearing the brunt of selfish indulgent destruction of the planet by wealthy folks [paraphrased] and Speers adds his recurrent cost of living lines. #Insiders

#TalkingPictures is up. Le Lievre is a back to you David Speers man. #Insiders

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#FinalObs 1 is Ison on a review of the people we left behind in Afghanistan #Insiders

#FinalObs 2 is van Onselen on rural and regional Liberals now outnumbering metro Liberals because teals and the Liberals are meeting to think about what to do about their tanking electoral prospects everywhere #Insiders

#FinalObs 3 is Hewitt on gas prices #Insiders

#FinalObs Speers, who has chosen not to mention the #Robodebt RC again this week, pays tribute to a Howard government headkicker who died #ChildrenOverboard #Insiders

he then spruiks his dreary podcast and says for the outtake we will hear what an opposition backbencher (Liberal party politician Dan Tehan) thinks about Musk buying twitter. It is a typical Uhlmann-school of ignorance and disdain, and unfunny. #Insiders

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