An opportunity was lost with the collapse of the #IntellectualDarkWeb. Logic only travels so far in the absence of social trust, and building trust rich social networks across tribes is extremely hard to do.
We live in an era of echo chambers. I won't listen to your information because I don't trust your sources, because I see them as being ill-motivated and not just potentially wrong.
Wherever you stand on voter fraud, the Covid vaccine (both of which Sam and I get in to...)
...there is a need to sustain the attention of vastly different thinking people on a singular topic where information is being discussed that conflicts with their biases.
Most of us can listen to such information if it is coming from someone whose intentions we trust. If not...
...well we check out, or interpret everything we hear with about as little charity as we can.
Sam was disappointed by the turns Dave Rubin, Bret & others made on various issues. The stakes of these disagreements tore this group apart and Sam walked away...
...as a matter of social responsibility, in his view.
But Sam's friendships with #JoeRogan#JordanPeterson#BretWeinstein#BenShapiro and others produced multi-hour exchanges on topics ranging from science and race to God with hundreds of thousands to even millions of people...
...people who inevitably disagreed with Shapiro if they agreed with Harris on some topic, etc - but who trusted each of them enough to stay engaged with topic all the way down. And in so doing found some metalevel common cause with millions of people who would vote differently...
...because we were engaged in this pursuit of truth together.
Had that network been functioning in 2020 it might have made a real difference in our collective ability to make sense of complexity and mitigate polarization. Instead at least of the country tuned out #CNN & the #CDC
...while the rest of America scourged #Newsmax and the rest of the rightwing infosphere and as a result we could never have a national conversation in which our attention could be sustained on complex, existential issues with patience, nuance, & goodfaith towards our fallible...
...countrymen who maybe were generally doing their best to grapple with the problems (the grifts and misinformation coming opportunists notwithstanding).
We don't necessarily need to rebuild the #IDW. But it may be that it still succeeded...
...maybe it succeeded in laying some of the groundwork for a cross-partisan movement of goodwill. One that can step into the light.
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I detect sarcasm from my friend @fullydavid, but let me address it. Because part of the value in speaking to Dave Rubin was to give me the chance to speak to other things.
I won't tag Rubin here because I don't think it's necessary. Others will do what they will. [1/43]
Here of course is the conversation, for The John Wood Jr. Show, that occasions the subject: [2/43]
Working with @braverangels I and my colleagues constantly disappoint people. Some people like the idea of good faith dialogue and empathy but draw lines as to who should be invited into such spaces. We've gotten backlash for engaging figures like Hawk Newsome, James Comey..[3/43]
But I also have to say something about it's aftermath.
This conversation was a victory because it showed an exchange between knowledgeable individuals on both sides of a highly charged topic that clarified differences, tested logical rigor & allowed for further reasoning on the subject.
It did so while maintaining a respect...
...and congeniality that would grant ppl on both sides of the conversation psychological permission to continue exploring in good faith.
These are the circumstances that allow us to learn from one another while also being able to function together socially.
Welcoming @tristanharris to the pod in an hour. A man to be admired.
Likewise @coldxman. In their recent convo Coleman makes a point I'd like to drill to the center of everyone's brains.
Generically politically informed people are as bias prone as anyone. More statistics...
...do not reduce tribal impulses that filter such information through its prejudices. Perversely therefore "recommending people get more informed may even exacerbate the problem."
"It's not a problem of intelligence. It's a much deeper problem." He's right.
Now as Tristan...
...points out there are different ways of being informed. It is the polarizing narrative structures (my language) that inform us in ways that inflame our biases and abridges our contextual understanding (most of this is not just flat out lies, though some is).
So at @braverangels we commissioned a poll from @YouGov to survey American's thoughts about the possibility of violence following a contested election, and the possibility that the election may in fact be rigged.
From @alexandernaz at Yahoo News (Respectful complaint coming - a thread:)
"Political forecasters believe that the extent and success of recovery from the pandemic, which has so far killed 100,000 Americans and left more than 30 million without jobs..." 1/9
"... will determine whether President Trump holds on to the White House and down ballot Republicans retain their seats. But for Democrats and many of their allies, talk of an economic recovery is premature."
Here is the balanced way a journalist might write that last part: 2/9
'But for Democrats and many of their allies - whose own prospects for retaking the White House and congress would be bolstered by poor economic approval ratings for the President and his Republican allies - talk of an economic recovery is premature."