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Feb 3 19 tweets 9 min read
It is mind boggling and absolutely infuriating how lawyers and staff at the SEC and others keep talking about the tokens themselves as being securities.

#Bitcoin is a digital asset that was once packaged, marketed, offered and sold as an investment contract aka a security.
Just b/c #BTC was utilized by someone as a security, didn’t turn #BTC into a security.

Beavers 🦫 were once offered and sold as an investment contract. 🦫s remained 🦫s, not securities.

Condos and Chinchillas were sold as investment contracts. They didn’t become securities.
If @Ripple offered or sold #XRP as an investment contract at some point during its history - or even if it does today - it does not make #XRP a security. #XRP remains digital code.

The Judge in @LBRYcom ruled LBRY sold #LBC as an investment contract when it made DIRECT sales.
#LBC itself remains software code, nothing else. In LBRY, the Judge made clear that his ruling does NOT apply to secondary market transactions of #LBC.

What does this mean exactly?

It means that #LBC itself is NOT a security. If it was, his ruling would apply to ALL sales.
If the Judge believed the token itself was a security, his ruling would include subsequent sales of the token. But he said his ruling does NOT apply to a subsequent sale of #LBC after LBRY sold it.
The Judge gave a great example in open Court and on the record. He said that when LBRY sold #LBC to Flipside Crypto - that particular transaction constituted the offer and sale of an investment contract aka an unregistered security.
But the Judge said his ruling does NOT apply to any subsequent sale offered or made by Flipside Crypto thereafter.
Clearly, if the Judge believed the token itself was a security, then his ruling would also apply to any sale made by Flipside after purchasing it from LBRY.

Thus, if Flipside sells to you or me directly or through an exchange, the ruling against LBRY doesn’t apply.
The judge is very aware of the fact that there is no way that Flipside would attempt to register #LBC as a security after acquiring it from LBRY. Therefore, his Flipside hypothetical is very significant.
Practically speaking, the Judge rejected the SEC’s embodiment theory that it first articulated in the @Ripple case when the SEC responded to the Motion to Intervene that I filed on behalf of #XRPHolders.

Here is the theory in the SEC’s own words: 👇👇 Image
“The XRP
traded, even in the secondary market, is the embodiment of those facts, circumstances, promises,
and expectations, and today represents that investment contract.”

The SEC’s theory is that the token itself including in the secondary market embodies the security.
That’s just a fancy legalese way of saying: “the token itself is a security.”

This novel and dangerous embodiment theory is how the SEC is attempting to expand its jurisdictional reach into secondary market transactions.

The theory stretches Howey beyond recognition.
@NYcryptolawyer’s extensive research article pictured below 👇 attacks the embodiment theory head on. Image
Lewis’ article shows that no federal appellate court has ever held that the underlying asset subject to an investment contract transaction is itself an investment contract and there is no federal case finding a subsequent transfer of that asset to be a securities transaction.
This is why the LBRY hearing and clarification was so important, not just for #LBC holders but for all crypto token holders.

The SEC can go after direct sales of a token by a promoter, just like they can go after the direct sales of ANY commodity or asset by a promoter.
But the underlying asset is never the security in an investment contract case and Howey requires a Howey analysis at the time of each offer or sale.

This is why I feel confident Judge Torres will deny the SEC’s summary judgment motion in the Ripple #XRP case.
The SEC doesn’t go transaction by transaction and argues that #XRP embodies or represents both the common enterprise and expectation of profits prongs of the Howey test.
@HesterPeirce admitted that her colleagues at the @SECGov perform a “shorthand” analysis and focus on the token itself instead of the circumstances surrounding the offering and sale of the token (ie “the contract, transaction or scheme”).
In my amicus brief in the @Ripple case I said the SEC was analytically lazy and its so-called shorthand constituted an unconstitutional shortcut violating 76 years of caselaw.

We must fight the SEC’s overreach and its attempt to exercise jurisdiction in secondary markets.

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More from @JohnEDeaton1

Feb 3
TO BE CLEAR:

I have not asked anybody for any money or for any contribution of any kind whatsoever associated with my efforts in the Ripple or LBRY cases. I’ve turned many people down who offered to contribute for my time and my expenses.
Not only have I never been paid a dime but I have spent a considerable amount of my own funds fighting the SEC’s overreach such as hiring local attorneys to file the appropriate paper work for my appearances, etc. I am doing this because I can and b/c its the right thing to do.
TO BE CLEAR: I HAVE ZERO EXPECTATION TO BE PAID!ALTHOUGH I TRULY APPRECIATE PEOPLE’S GRATITUDE FOR MY EFFORTS, I WILL CONTINUE TO TURN DOWN ANY AND ALL OFFERS REGARDING ANY FORM OF PAYMENT FROM ANYONE REGARDING MY EFFORTS ASSOCIATED WITH XRP or LBC.
Read 6 tweets
Jan 29
During this 🧵, I share the interview I did w/@Jay_SpendDBits well over a year ago when I was researching the #XRPLedger and independent developers who have no connection to @Ripple or its executives.

@Spend_The_Bits is a PERFECT example of what’s wrong w/the SEC lawsuit.
In fact, there have been 15 Amicus Briefs filed in the @Ripple case and if Judge Torres were to inform me that she was only going to read one Amicus Brief but was going to allow me to pick the one she reads, I would tell her to carefully read the @Spend_The_Bits Amicus Brief.
The @Spend_The_Bits Brief may be the best at demonstrating how flawed the SEC’s all-encompassing #XRP theory is.

Like most in Crypto, Jay read the #Bitcoin White Paper and bought #BTC
He knew #Bitcoin was going to be part of the future and decided to develop a payments app.
Read 25 tweets
Jan 24
READ THIS 🧵 AND I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO TRY AND DEFEND THE ACTIONS AND CONDUCT OF THE SEC.
“The same reasoning applies to digital assets. The digital asset itself is simply code. But the way it is sold – as part of an investment; to non-users; by promoters to develop the enterprise – can be, and, in that context, most often is, a security.”

- Bill Hinman, 06/14/2018
Notice that the asset is more a security if it is “sold as part of an investment - to non-users - by promoters.”

Clearly, #LBC users w/in the @LBRYcom Blockchain who didn’t purchase the tokens from LBRY or its executives DO NOT FIT with what Hinman articulated.
Read 25 tweets
Jan 22
THE UNITED STATES 🇺🇸 IS BEING LEFT BEHIND. FULL STOP! 🛑

CRYPTO REGULATION IS NOT COMING!
I’ve seen some very smart people say things like:

“When we get regulation soon….”

I hate to be a Debbie Downer about politics in the U.S., but I don’t see sensible Crypto regulation being passed into law anytime soon.
I believe the 1st or 2nd Quarter of 2025 is likely the earliest it could get done and I may be being overly optimistic with that time estimate.

The market will continue to receive guidance only through judicial results from the SEC’s Regulation by Enforcement policy.
Read 11 tweets
Jan 20
Here is how the Judge could give Ripple an outright win. People are focusing on the pre-1933 Blue Sky argument. That argument is for the 2nd Circuit and Supreme Court. I don’t believe Judge Torres agrees with that argument although the current Supreme Court could.
I’m not saying it will happen. I’m just addressing Jay’s concerns or thoughts.

The judge could absolutely get around Ripple’s sales of #XRP b/c the SEC didn’t go transaction by transaction applying the Howey test to each transaction. Instead it went w/ what I wrote in my brief. ImageImage
Essentially the SEC is applying the old “But For” causation test in this case. The SEC essentially argues but for Ripple executives (Jed, Chris) creating XRP, XRP wouldn’t exist. But for Ripple helping create a secondary market for XRP, a secondary market wouldn’t exist.
Read 12 tweets
Jan 16
Common enterprise is a real problem for the SEC in this case. And #XRPHolders, as amici curie, have contributed a lot on the issue.
Remember, initially the SEC argued that @Ripple was the common enterprise. Two things then happened: 1) Ripple forced the SEC to admit owning #XRP gives #XRPHolders ZERO rights or interest in Ripple and Ripple owes #XRPHolders absolutely nothing; and
2) #XRPHolders became amici a year and half BEFORE anyone else filed an amicus request and we submitted 3K affidavits stating that the majority of first time purchasers of #XRP were unaware of the company Ripple, thousands acquired #XRP for non-investment reasons,
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