Thread by @JillianWeise

Happening now: Zoom with @lacancircle

"We have been invaded by the proliferation of the impossible Real" quoting Lacan

"Science affects nature but it does not affect the subject. Disjunction between science and the human psyche." Rik Loose paraphrasing #Freud from Civilization & Its Discontents

"Stars in the sky? They never lie. They do not commit errors. But humans do [...] Knowledge is based on an unlimited universe and when applied to Earth it encounters limits."

Rik Loose talk: The Fall of the Object to Earth:
Object a at the Zenith Immonde and Discontent

"Can we rely on science? Perhaps."

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] But why would we? What does the noumenon want? [

"Objects as ready-mades for jouissance."

"Fake more to be enjoyed objects."

"We don't know whether these are good or bad but we can be sure they will be part of our discontent. these objects -- computers, phones -- become connected to our bodies"

"These objects are the result of scientific knowledge"

] OBJECT-ion. These objects are us if we are disabled people and joined with ourselves. So this is not just "scientific knowledge." This is cyborg knowledge. [

"Gadgets are made because they provide satisfaction. Their increasing supply to the free market ..."

Snark: The tryborgs will go around the stars & universe to not-say, not-sign that disabled cyborgs exist. And may have something to say, sign.

"Gadgets are made for our comfort yet they cause anxiety because they overwhelm us."

Once again, the trouble with the pronoun. Who is in "they" and who is in "us"? Thinking of this per #Irigaray "Computers force THEIR will upon US" except when I am computer, etc.

"What did science give us? It gave us enough to put our teeth into the place of that which is missing in our relationship to knowledge." qt-ing #Lacan

"Knowledge is not all. We will never know it all."

Por supuesto, y -- ?

"Lacan wonders how this localizable object" ...

] I need "able" to get out of all the words; how to achieve? [

We are learning of "Lathouse" a neologism from ancient #philosophy this new word for me/not familiar with this text

"There is another object produced by castration. One that is not the objet a ... I'm going to cut it off ... where will the little willy be ... it is then in the hands of the one's who has cut it off"

If you are an #amputee #Lacanian -- as I am -- then etc

"In 1972 Lacan refers to possible inversion of the discourse of the master. I call it the discourse of the free market. If you invert the left antipote of the discourse of the master, you can see that the subject is in charge & not the master anymore."

This is an inversion that Lacan only mentions once, a talk in Italy, however the Lacanians like it very much/return to speak of that which Lacan only spoke once.

"This ideal level of jouissance concerns the unification of the S1 and the ideal with a" --Loose

"Objects of jouissance promise more-to-be-enjoyed but it never quite arrives. All these objects are standard objects. They are ready mades for our desire."

The pronouns here are messy. Because these pronouns are not analyzed as pronouns and are taken as known rather than unknown

"One analysand who was addicted to porn said: 'You don't quite get what will do it for you with each image but you keep going ...' This man was a neurosurgeon."

I don't understand if porn is being substituted as object?

Loose: "attempt to make jouissance something visible"

"So to conclude: we are falling asleep and we need to be woken up."

] Am thinking of poet Denise Levertov: "Insofar as poetry has a social function it is to awaken sleepers by other means than shock.” [

] Am realizing that "shock" has "other mean[ing]" for the person in #StopTheShock . Am realizing that for the first time. [

Russell Grigg asking brilliant question about "the function of novelty re: enjoyment"

Yes, what is the spark. I must act as tho my cyborg body is NOVEL even tho to me it is not novel. This fetish (?) for the gadget. Always new, always what, always outside-the-us

Discussion of analysand pursuing pornography for 24 hrs around the clock. "I realized that's renewal bc there is in all images, I think, especially the images of pornography, the renewal element, different angle, different man, different woman, lil bit of a story, lil narrative"

"You could say the same thing about gadgets"

"We also know how these gadgets are designed"

If I'm being generous, then there is a distinction here that is not being made. If I'm not being generous, they do not know there is a distinction to be made.

Brilliant question from Eugenie Austin: "Does the modern artist come to analysis at all?"

Answer: Joyce did not 😆

Thank goodness, we have settled that #LacanApprovesThisMessage #LetUsHaveSomeFun #WeAreLacanians #AfterAll #Happily

Dare I ask who is in the "they" and the "us" ?

Or will I pretend that these signifiers are obvious, default and all ...