If you do one thing today, listen to cardiologist Dr Rae Duncan on #COVID19#LongCovid &what Covid could be doing to our children.
It is heartfelt and genuine from someone who has seen the devastating effects of long Covid.
Excerpts below.
via @YouTube
She details that prior to the pandemic the average age of referrals to her cardiology clinic was aged 55-80yrs.
Now it is 16-40yrs
Now at least 50% are long Covid with cardiovascular symptoms.
What she says about these patients is utterly heartbreaking.
It mirrors what I see.
Some cannot stand up due to severe #POTS
Some are in wheelchairs
Some are in bed 23 hours a day with only 15 minutes where they can speak #LongCovid
She has a virtual clinic like me- we see the sickest people who can’t get to clinic
‘ they have become progressively disabled with each subsequent infection’
‘This virus is running rampant’
‘The narrative that Covid is over is wrong&provides a breeding ground for new variants
‘I don’t see how this is sustainable in the long term’
‘I am seeing the devastating impact of this virus on young lives that have been damaged on a massive scale.
It makes me sad, it makes me upset, it makes me angry, because some of these could be prevented, I think’
‘ there is a need to reduce the reinfection rates from this virus.
We already know from published data that reinfection cumulatively increases your risk of long Covid&cardiovascular complications.
I think there needs to be a plan for the level of care needed going forwards’
‘We know now that Covid is causing endothelial damage. (Inflammation in the inner lining of the blood vessels).
This is a precursor to
- long Covid
- blood clots
- development of atherosclerosis
‘There are papers from multiple continents in millions of patients,all showing the same thing- that there is a significant increased risk of cardiovascular complications-not just in those with long Covid, but anyone infected with Covid’
Evidence that there was an extra 7200 heart attacks/strokes and extra 3500 DVTs 12 months after Covid out of 1.4 million infections.
Evidence for increased cardiovascular deaths up to 18 months after Covid.
These were massive UK studies.
Study showing that risk of cardiovascular events with Covid are higher in the unvaccinated.
We know from studies in adults that the more times you get infected with Covid, the higher those risks become.
CHILDREN
Therefore- naturally- she shares my concern about what the potential impact could be on children.
We don’t have much research as it was originally believed Covid didn’t really impact children…..
At first it was believed that
-children don’t get Covid
now we know they do.
-children don’t transmit Covid
now we know they do&school is a major source of transmission
-children don’t get sick-
PIMS-TS/long Covid
-mild infection&recover
‘But do they, do we know that?’
What evidence do we have? 1. In lungs
Mild Covid recovered children and children with long Covid
Specialised scanning found subclinical damage in both groups…
2. Diabetes
There has been some data suggesting an increased incidence epidemiologically in children infected with SARS-CoV-2 with type 1 diabetes’
‘Correlation doesn’t prove causation but that obviously needs to be looked at’
Type 1 diabetes is life changing and life long.
3. Children’s hearts
- study used strain imaging to look at the hearts of children who had mild Covid and recovered.
- Dr Duncan is a strain imaging expert
- it looks at the contractility of the heart..
Strain imaging has been used in studies in adults
‘It can give us very early insight into subclinical heart muscle damage that is not visible to the naked eye.
It can show over time these may be individuals who could be at risk of heart failure (in adults)’
Results:
Took a group of children who had mild Covid& recovered and compared to a group without Covid infection
-subclinical reduction in contractility in the hearts of the children infected with Covid for several months after
-small study so she doesnt want to over egg it
Contd
The children did not have symptoms
She is not suggesting they have heart failure
It’s an observation from a small study
We don’t know if these findings on imaging will improve, normalise, get worse
But these were the results
Her concern about this is:
IF we are beginning to see a signal that Covid MAY be causing subclinical contractile abnormalities in the hearts of kids and we do nothing to reduce the reinfection rate, and ‘learning to live’ with Covid means 2 infections a year, her worry is..
‘What is that going to do to the organs of our children cumulatively over time?
‘Because this isn’t a cold virus it’s a SARS2 virus.’
‘My concern is how many infections can a child’s body take repeatedly before they go on to become disabled adults?’ Cont
‘Now I don’t know the answer to that, I don’t think anybody knows the answer to that, I don’t know if that will happen or not, but I don’t think we should be sitting back and playing roulette, and waiting to find out’
‘We need to have a think about how to reduce the reinfection rates, how we protect our children&citizens.
How we invest in clear air.
How we reduce the risk of catching this.
At the moment we do not have a cure.
We need investment in studies.
We need studies fast tracked.
‘I strongly feel that the precautionary principle has to be applied’
How mild can the mildest of mild omicron Covid be?
So mild it killed 600 people in the Uk last week ( and just about every week in the past year) and disables 1/10 who get it with long Covid.
But it’s ‘mild’
It causes inflammation in blood vessels&the brain but it’s ‘mild’.
The meaning of mild.
‘Not violent, severe, or extreme’
600 people dying a week is not extreme?
The term mild was first used by a GP in South Africa based on a small number of younger patients. In nov 21 @WHO issued this.
1/ The people I see are so incredibly sick. Please don’t listen to mainstream media, your pals or someone random on here.
There is a drive to pretend that Covid is not on the rise again and causing mass disablement- mainly of young people.
2/ the only way to avoid #LongCovid is to avoid Covid.
You think it won’t happen to you but have a 1 in 10 chance is you are infected. Not great odds.
3/ common symptoms my patients have:
Severe debilitating fatigue.
Worsens on any activity
Fast heart rate
Dizziness
Severe headaches
Numb hands and feet
Chest pain
Shortness of breath
Tremors
Muscle twitching
Rashes
Abdominal pain
Difficulty remembering words
Contd
Does any country have a plan for worst case scenario SARS-CoV-2?
By that I mean a recombinant variant as transmissible as omicron and as nasty as delta ( or worse).
Perhaps one that can evade immunity& be worse in children with robust immune systems (=cytokine storms)?
Why is no one talking about this?
We would likely not have time to adjust vaccines.
Its now so transmissible it could be around the world in a week and doubling rapidly.
We seem so willing to risk this gamble.
Current state of affairs in UK. Look at all these ‘subvariants’
It’s never nice to think of worst case scenarios.
Likewise it’s good to try and prevent them and plan ahead.
Maybe they don’t happen- maybe you get best case scenario of mild illness infrequently.
Excellent explanation on why the long Covid prevalence estimates are affected by the fact people have individual symptoms as a baseline.If someone already has fatigue then develops LC they won’t count& studies like this will be inaccurate. Don’t believe everything you read.
@dgurdasani1 also points out that those with chronic illness or social deprivation will be less likely to get help. I definitely mostly see a cohort of previously well people. So where are the rest? The baseline of symptoms in a population matters.
One of the most common presentations to a GP is ‘tired all the time’. There are a myriad of causes, with conditions like long Covid and ME/CFS being a diagnosis of exclusion. Studies are often not designed at this level, especially if a computer trawl of notes.
‘The figures from the Department for Education (DfE) showed the AFTERMATH of the pandemic continued to significantly affect state school attendance into the summer of 2022’
@guardian please do better and stop using words like aftermath when we are still in the thick of a pandemic. You are not helping.
Why do people talk about the pandemic as if it’s over? If there is one thing that irritates me most it’s this.
This is from the Scottish Covid inquiry:
‘Coming out of the pandemic there are pressures across the system’
Coming out? Baseline one million infections at any time.
Baseline one million infections with peaks of 4-5 million every few months. Waves continuing all year including summer. Where has the notion come from that we are remotely coming out of this pandemic? Because we want it to?
Wishful thinking.
Compare to flu with its one peak. We could definitely say we are coming out of flu. I’d agree with that wholeheartedly.