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We can always try asking
(again).

Hey, anyone at @googlesearchc, or maybe @JohnMu or @searchliaison ...

Does Google actually try to verify experience or expertise,
or is it based on linguistics/phrasing?

#SEO #EEAT
My money is on it being linguistics/phrasing.

G simply cannot know if Bob bought the giant pink 18" floppy dragon pillow (yeah, some of you went there!), or is simply making it up.

(Note: they may be able to guess if Bob's full of shit though, due to 34K reviews in a week ;))
For example ... you're a person, not a machine.
You have good judgement, right?

So you know I made this up...
Now ... I know some people claim G can't do a "people database", and thus can't really do "authors",
but personally - I don't see an issue.
Technically, it should be smaller than the Link Graph (fewer people than sites, fewer edges etc.).

But not all qualifications are public.
So G would have only a sample.

They could use association and inference.
Similar to the concept of Authority sites and Distance for links - they look at mentions/citations/links from such sites to "people" (thus why mutual interlinking between works/profiles is important).
But that doesn't cover things like "reviews".
Not unless G are scoring people with some form of "trust" metric.

That's a fair bit of resources,
vs simply parsing content looking for "I" and "we" etc.

But I'd be happy for someone at @googlesearchc to say I'm wrong ;)
So which is it @JohnMu / @searchliaison ...

Shallow/(relatively) Simplistic parsing of text,
or a more complicated record/system tracking and scoring people?
And honestly - people really should know.

Either, people are getting confused with EEAT,
and thinking they must hire expensive people etc. to gain an edge,
or you've got a collection of data on people that the public should know about,
or it's just smoke and simple parsing.

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May 11
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:: Google - using NLP and LLMs ::

So, G have invested Millions into advancing their algorithms, developing cutting edge approaches to parsing content and identifying important information.

But …

… rather than using it for "Ranking"
… they chose to steal Traffic.

#SEO
>>>

And this isn't the first time Google have committed such an offence.

Every few years, they make changes to the SERPs,
to benefit "their users".

> Knowledge Panel
> Featured Snippets
> People Also Ask
> FAQs

Each such addition - reduces traffic ...

>>>
>>>

... from the very sites that G are obtaining that content from!

And the plans for their AI addition (#Magi) is no different.
It will utilise content from 1+ sources,
and present it to "their users",
(similar to a FS, but a generated composite).

>>>
Read 9 tweets
May 9
1/🧵
:: SEO by looking at the Rankings ::

Yes / No / Maybe.

The problems here are:
1) Correlation
2) Shallow observation
3) Copy cats
4) Many factors are small/tiny, and don't show any visible impact at the top of the SERPs for high-volume/high-value terms

But ...
>>>

#SEO
2/?
>>>

The first 2 points go hand in hand.
Consider things like "long form content" and "word count".

Those are purely correlative - they are Not actual factors.

But, when you look, you see tons of top ranking pages about X have more than N words...

>>>
3/?
>>>

Copy cats can be quite funny.
When in the Google Forums, we were blessed with witnessing things like:

<meta name="PageRank" content="7">

<meta name="position" content="1">

(I shit you not!)

But it happens with links etc. too
(as G doesn't hammer most offenders)

>>>
Read 9 tweets
Feb 13
1/🧵
🚨:: Does Google use Bounce Back Rate? ::🚨

*sigh*
It's not even 2 years since I last covered this!

🧵>>>

#SEO #BounceRate #BounceBackRate #BounceBackToSERP Image
2/?

Here's the thread I did at the end of 2021...



But if you don't want to read through that,
I'll do a quick summary here...

>>>
3/?

Bounce Rate (BR) is an "Analytics" metric.
Dwell Time is a made up metric.
Click Through Rate (CTR) is a SERP metric.

G have stated none are used for Rankings.

But they "do" use user-behaviour in the SERP,
for various things (such as gauging algo performance etc.).

>>>
Read 13 tweets
Jan 31
.
:: Prioritisation ::

For me, it's an indication that the SEO sector has matured.

A substantial % of people aren't focused on:
* lists
* tool scores
* number of keywords
* vanity term rankings
or even
* what moves the SERP needle

>>>

#SEO
>>>

Instead, there has been a significant shift to:
* what contributes to the businesses goal(s),
* what is readily achievable with the resources available,
* how to present needs/requirements to get them implemented,
* understanding of resource allocation

>>>
>>>

As time goes by, SEO grows from being a specialised and highly misunderstood "extra",
to a core aspect of marketing,
and is causing businesses to mature (as there's a shocking number of them that don't grasp marketing in general either!).

>>>
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Jan 29
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I'm torn on this one.

I deeply value experience, and invested time in learning.

But, as someone that was once young,
and often frustrated at the stupidity I saw in various roles,
I know that "age" is the wrong proxy-metric.

>>>
>>>

It's the inverse of "time served"
(another thing that always irritated me - the assumption that because someone has done the job for X years, they are good at it!).

Some people are smart, others sharp, others invested time/effort learning/research years ago.

>>>
>>>

Some people may have passive experience (family business, spent lots of time soaking up insights from someone in that role etc.).

Others are able to transfer/adapt what they have,
and apply it sideways to something else.

>>>
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Jan 29
.
:: Test - but prioritise based on Experience! ::

I'm a fan of the "test everything" concept,
but the reality is - most of us don't, and in many cases, you can't.

It's also costly.

So, same as with everything else,
you should Prioritise!

#Marketing #SEO

>>>
>>>

Though markets may differ,
industries respond differently,
audiences react in various ways ...
... there are "safer bets", and "more probable" performers.

We know this based on experience (and even prior tests).

So you go with those as your baseline!

>>>
>>>

You then divvy up the resources,
and allocate a % to "the wilds" - those that you have no experience/knowledge of, those that seem a little out there, those you may have doubts over.

Those still need testing
(if only to shut someone in a chair up!).

>>>
Read 4 tweets

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