Remember, we haven’t seen the the 56.1 statements and counter statements filed by the parties. The 56.1 statements and counter statements is where each party cites indisputable facts and evidence supporting their position for summary judgement.
Thus, it is very difficult for anyone, including me, to accurately weigh specific evidence submitted by the SEC and @Ripple. For example, every one knows that Ripple’s Blue Sky argument is that there must be an underlying contract before the Judge can even apply the Howey test.
However, in its summary judgment brief, Ripple admits that there were #XRP sales made by Ripple that did have a written contract as part of the sale. Ripple argues that b/c those contracts did not obligate Ripple to take post-sale actions for the benefit of the #XRPHolder,
and b/c these written contracts did not allow any #XRPHolder to demand anything from Ripple, and these contracts did not allow the buyers to share in Ripple profits or grant any equity of any kind to the #XRPHolders, these contracts cannot be deemed investment contracts.
Personally, I’ve stated that I don’t believe Judge Torres will agree with Ripple’s underlying contract argument, which also means she may also reject the argument that if there is a written contract it must impose post sale obligations on the seller (Ripple).
@attorneyjeremy1 is correct and this is why Ripple’s Fair Notice Defense should be viewed as an insurance policy. If the Judge finds Ripple violated Section 5 b/c these specific sales constituted investment contracts, Ripple argues the jury must decide if Ripple had fair notice.
Since the judge’s decision regarding what can or cannot be sealed (e.g. the Hinman emails), many people are discussing a split decision: Ripple gets tagged for early #XRP sales but ODL and secondary market sales are found to be non-securities (and #XRP itself is not a security).
If the above scenario happens AND the Judge agrees w/Ripple that the jury must then decide whether those early sales should be excused because Ripple lacked fair notice that XRP sales were effectively illegal (unregistered), it can only be described as a TOTAL VICTORY for Ripple.
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I saw the 👇 video and then ran into this sign. Who is Canaan? A #BTC & #ETH mining ⛏️ company that went public. Who brought the IPO? Simpson Thacher - Bill Hinman’s law firm. What was Hinman’s position at the time his firm made these huge fees? Director of Corporation Finance.
Hinman must’ve took precautions to avoid any conflict, right? Wrong!
Look at the👇 emails. On the SAME DAY a letter goes out from Hinman’s Division, Hinman agrees to MEET his partner at Simpson Thacher. I’m sure that’s a coincidence. Some might be thinking: What’s the big deal?
Then you should look at these👇 emails. BEFORE that meeting w/his partner who was bringing the Canaan IPO, Hinman was told that he would be in violation of the CRIMINAL financial conflict laws (18 USC 208) if he even emailed or called his law partners - LET ALONE meet with them.
A lot of comments about whether this delay is for settlement discussions. If the Hinman emails were going to lead to a settlement it would’ve been before they turned them over to Ripple. IMO, the SEC has accepted that the Hinman emails are eventually going to be made public.
@RoslynLayton intervened for the purposes of the public getting to read these documents. Judge Torres said her motion was moot b/c the documents must be made public. The 2nd Circuit will NEVER overturn that ruling. @dragonchain, @coinbase, etc will all seek these documents.
The SEC just filed a joint request for a one week extension based on the fact that there are so many documents that must be carefully redacted to satisfy her ruling. I seriously doubt the SEC would ✍️ that and then file an appeal or writ of mandamus. The documents are coming.
“The SEC asks this Court to validate its shorthand and analytically lazy contention that Ripple has engaged in the functional equivalent of a nine year-long, on-going, 24/7 ICO, and that each and every sale of XRP, from anywhere in the
world, offered by anyone, including amici, was, is, always has been, and always will be, the offer and sale, of a security. ECF 640 at 49-50 (“a purchase of XRP WAS an investment of money into a common enterprise with other XRP investors and with Defendants.”) (emphasis added);
Id. at 2 (“a purchase of XRP IS an investment in a common enterprise with other XRP holders and with Ripple.”) (emphasis added); also, ECF 153 at 24 (“The XRP traded, EVEN IN THE SECONDARY MARKET...TODAY represents that investment contract.”) (emphasis added).
Also in 2019, former Chairman Clayton publicly agreed with Hinman’s speech stating the token itself is NOT a security and that a token can, at first, start out or be issued as a security, but later transform so that subsequent sales of the token no longer meet the Howey test.
Yet, here we are FOUR years later, moving backwards regarding regulatory clarity. And for you crypto Critics that say Hinman and Clayton’s comments are immaterial b/c their statements were only personal opinions, I say hogwash (I actually say something else but I’m being polite).
Quite a few people ask why would Ripple settle if they won. First, I didn’t say Ripple would agree to the same terms of a settlement they would’ve agreed to 2 years ago. It all depends on the ruling itself. Does Coinbase and Kraken immediately relist or wait for an appeal?
Does Bank of America, a Ripple partner feel comfortable with the decision or wait to see if Judge Torres gets overturned if the SEC appeals her ruling.
Remember, the SEC can file a notice of appeal and withdraw it later.
If the SEC told Ripple it would issue a statement that all future sales of #XRP are not securities (not saying it would) and not appeal if Ripple agrees to pay $50M, I believe the certainty and immediate return of liquidity to the U.S., makes @bgarlinghouse ✍️ a check in seconds.
This is not how a settlement happens. First, I believe the only time a settlement occurs in this case is AFTER a ruling by Judge Torres and that happens only if Ripple gets a big victory so Gensler could save face and get a political win via settlement. Sorry not going to happen.
How is Genlser going to agree that ongoing and future sales of #XRP are not securities AND pursue Coinbase and others? Sure he could try and thread 🧵 the needle 🪡 and somehow claim claim that #XRP is like no other token AFTER claiming that it was like others for over 2 years.
Second, because of claims of market manipulation and insider trading, they wouldn’t set a meeting and run the risk of a leak and influence the market. They would just meet and then come to terms, if they could, and then and only then would they report a settlement to the judge.