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So, yesterday @chrischirp and @Zubhaque hosted a brilliant @IndependentSage briefing on lived experience of a group of University students during restrictions.
Some were surprised at the content, especially that negative impacts from restrictions were discussed...
Certain folks
seem to actually BLAME us for restrictions!
Seemingly, we convinced the virus to return, and it was nothing to do with any missteps in policy, certain folks being invited to no10, or anyone seemingly more motivated by monet over public health...

So, it may surprise some to hear that agreeing something is necessary for the greater good is NOT the same as "wanting it". We have had multiple discussions of vulnerable groups, inequalities, inequity etc., we have families, including clinically vulnerable ones. We have kids, we
actively want them in SAFE schools, we didn't "want" to be made unwell, in some cases for the longer term...ultimately, we didn't want SARS2, or restrictions ro happen any more than anyone else...
BUT, there's a lot of revisionism going on at present, hence my annual retweet of
this thread. Of course restrictions adversely affected those least able to cope. The pandemic effectively shone spotlights on the fragility and inequity in society.
Nevertheless, what might have happened had we done what many people now seem to think is wise, ie nothing?
Well,
remember 20K deaths being touted as a "good outcome" from modelling? We're now exceeding this annually even WITH vaccines, and with a total 11x this estimate...nevermind the knock on fx, long COVID, latent sequelae...
I've mentioned the pendulum of restrictions vs freedom before,
it seems crazy that a middle ground employing knowledge, vaccines and tech seems now to be unreasonable. How can we call this approach successful, with the pendulum stuck well and truly in the freedom swing? Both extremes carry harm, social damage, kids out of school, economics,
vs infections and harm at rates and frequency well above any other respiratory virus. Folks say, rightly, that there are other health problems, of course there are, so why add another problem when the solution would actually help reduce the impact of multiple healthcare issues?
We have supported #VaccinesPlus for years now, and I've yet to see an argument that negates it. This doesn't mean restrictions, it means protections, plus it should be applied to more than just COVID.
The longer term benefits of clean air, widespread vaccination, surveillance
and support for those who are unwell is an investment in long term public health, a safety net that will be most beneficial to those who face additional, often unnecessary barriers. This is the responsibility of government and public health leaders...so the abject abandonment of
our vaccines feels all the more damaging...
So, apologies for the rant/meander, but it riles me on a daily basis when certain folks who should know better, frankly, make absurd claims that @IndependentSage have either some biased agenda or a political need to see societal
restrictions...we (in MY opinion) have always acted on our best interpretation of data, and on behalf of those we feel have fared worst. We intimately understand the need to return to normal, but my view is that this can be better achieved with a new approach at the national or
indeed international level...in the same way now that we take sanitation for granted, our childhood vaccines, our low neonatal death rates, we can make another stride forwards. Those accusing us of stuff well beyond our control would do well to remember this, which isn't opinion,
it's historic fact. Look beyond individual perspectives, consider population risks, understand that healthy = productivity, and stop polarising stuff that simply isn't...we can accept that this pandemic has cost us dear, we owe it to those who have suffered to learn, not ignore.

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May 22
So, a LOT of arguments currently around #Covid in kids, both long and short versions, and kids vax. @LongCovidKids is something I feel strongly about, as is kids vax.
I have been criticised by some...who say criticism of policy isn't acceptable 🤦‍♂️...well, tough.

Feels to me that
some of the arguments have become so polarised that the rabbit holes that follow are inescapable, for both "sides". We need to focus on the bigger picture, which, in my opinion, paints this whole situation around COVID in kids as totally absurd, especially compared to other 🦠s.
So, some observations and thoughts on things in no particular order. No jokes, no gifs, no, you can find your own data sources...

1. Has there EVER been another kids vax policy/rollout that was a) offered, then withdrawn, b) endorsed as "non-urgent", optional, etc c) had SUCH a
Read 30 tweets
May 11
So, lots about @WHO calling an end to the #PHEIC
First, this is a response, and it has a defined set of criteria. Whether or not these are met doesn't actually mean that #COVID isn't a pandemic, it's an interpretation of guidance and is pretty arbitrary, really.
Second, and this
really IS important...whether or not the WHO, mainstream/social media, or any other form of messaging put this across properly, national governments will have been briefed IN FULL, AHEAD of time, with the five pillars of the ongoing response in black and white, LARGE FONT etc...
Third, that certain Governments refuse to heed these recommendations, or even bother to review their own policies on how they're handling things is down to them, NOBODY else.
My opinion, fwiw, is that this is an abdication of public health responsibility that, as usual, affects
Read 11 tweets
May 9
Occurred to me today that some of the 💩 that's peddled by certain folks, including those who should know better, those who purposefully poison, and those too inward looking to see any wood amongst those trees, will have SERIOUS connotations for any sort of science teaching...🧵
For example, let's just say, for the sake of argument, that this stuff gets accepted by "the establishment"...what on earth would we be saying in lectures? Imagine this...
1) Jenner was wrong , smallpox was a fluke...much better to get infected, "natural" immunity beats vaccines
2) Even the most beastly virus will be laid low by "healthy immune systems" and become a tame, vapid wet lettuce of a parasite, barely able to form particles...
3) That Nobel prize winning anti-parasitic drugs with an exquisitely defined mode of action are, in fact, a cure-all...
Read 8 tweets
May 9
Couldn't clip the whole thing, but anyone doubting the impact of #LongCovidKids just needs to listen to how brave Freya is, but also how sad 💔
Heartbreaking. We need to do so much more.
Thanks @jamiecoulsontv and @BBCLookNorth for highlighting this incredibly important issue 🙏
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May 2
@drclairetaylor @CounsellingSam @Capricopia_Farm @kathryn_revell @LozzaFox <<sigh>>
1. Disease is a function of virulence, immunity and environment.
2. IFR is always an estimate, but must be scaled by prevalence...the risk of something that isn't around to infect you is 0.
3. Risk to children is a U-shaped curve, higher in u5's, dips in primary yrs and
@drclairetaylor @CounsellingSam @Capricopia_Farm @kathryn_revell @LozzaFox then increases with age. The lack of pre-school vax is therefore a huge concern. Again, this is scaled by prevalence.
4. Vax reduces long COVID risk, not much else does.
5. Omicron is not one virus. BA1/2 were less virulent IN RECENTLY VAXD populations cf delta, but it didn't
@drclairetaylor @CounsellingSam @Capricopia_Farm @kathryn_revell @LozzaFox evolve from delta, so this is not a reduction in virulence. It is similar to original strain, look at Hong Kong in spring 22.
6. Recent omicron subvariants, eg BA5 and derivatives, are not only more infectious, antibody evasive etc., they are also better at antagonising innate
Read 8 tweets
Mar 30
No tests...like flu?
5 waves/year...like flu?
>30k dead in 22...like flu?
2M+ with long COVID...like flu?
10s of 1000s in hospital...like flu?
Vax 4 vulnerable, NOT kids...like flu?
1 antiviral...like flu?
Cardio, neuro, metabolic sequelae...like flu?
FFS

bbc.co.uk/news/health-65…
Please don't take this as being dismissive of flu, it's a dreadful disease, i work on both 4 good reasons.
But our dynamics with seasonal strains is nothing like our friendly pandemic CoV.
I'm continuously astonished by the total absence of population scale considerations...nuts.
While we're at it, of course I'm pro-vax, but mainly pro- #VaccinesPlus as ever...
No one thing is enough to mitigate this virus. Our vaccines are incredibly good vs severe COVID, but that's not the whole battle, by any means...

We need better invariant targets, mucosal vax etc
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