Thread by @hamsanandi

How the myth started..

Now reading the book by @bennedose

This is how the #ThaparHabibClan and their more famous international counterparts take into advantage most gullible people who read their books , who do not know a word of #Samskrta , forget knowing anything from #RgVeda!

#justsaying

This is exactly how the #ThaparHabibClan has perpetuated a myth of "repeated mention of killing of Dasyus in the #RgVeda".

I showed in another article how dubious was that by similar means.

What the #ThaparHabibClan and the Troll Scroll does not want you to know, or worse, even think about when they peddle article after article about "How the earliest Samskrta *documents* are from Syria".

Hypothesis !=Fact

But the #ThaparHabibClan, their supporters and followers like text book writers or the committee responsible for #KarnatakaTextbookFiasco, have totally forgotten the that a string of hypotheses do not make a fact

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How the hypothesis of P.I.E is now made to be misunderstood as a fact

#History #India #PIE #Samskrtra #Astronomy

If you read only the books by #ThaparHabibClan you would be left thinking every verse, every sukta, every mantra of #RgVeda is filled with mention of words like #Aryan , #Dasyu and what not.
Statistically: The word #Arya (not Aryan) occurs 8 times in #RigVeda, of ~1,00,000 words

Even here, the word "Arya' is found as compound words and the meanings need to be looked at.

How bias in sampling can give rise to erroneous resuts

Such migrations at very ancient times may help explain different laguage families, in my opinion.

Yes, the names that show a confirmation bias are very likely kept to mislead. When people who have some understanding of the statistical process have a difficulty in completely deciphering it, no wonder the Tony Joseph's of this world can easily mislead the bulk of the population

Even after reading Reich's book this aspect wasn't clear to me - I guess the intent is deliberate. Thanks to @RajVedam1 ji who patiently explained it sometime ago on how the ANI and ASI naming and the categorization is meant to skew results.

There is nothing in your genes or tongue that make it possible (or not possible) to produce some sounds (of a language).

Do not believe if someone says "Dravidian's can't say mahaprAna sounds" "Kannada ethnic(!) folks can't produce mahaprana sounds etc!

(Not making it up!)

Of course, it depends on what we grow with and as an adult, it may be hard to get yourself a different accent, but it is just that.

The story of two parrots from Panchatantra (IIRC) comes to minds.

#ThaparHabibClan

Salad model of P.I.E. linguistics..

You could have made this better @bennedose avare . Panini wasn't the first grammarian & the language he describes must have been in usage for centuries before him .Vedic forms considered archaic already.

Changes in language weren't due to Panini. But the paragraph here reads so!

This sums very well what we are seeing the last few years. Genetic observation, which may be real, are linked to a hypothetical language, which know one can say for sure had existed.

This is an important paragraph. Because from the elites of the #ThaparHabibClan, to the #ArchitectureReuseExperts to chota-mota wannabes writing to the Troll and the Liar alike, make a big claim of "Samskrta originated in Syria" argument.

You need this to counter that stupidity.

How the dates for Vedas were "assigned" by Max Muller in an arbitrary manner. You need this when you read articles on Scroll and Wire claiming these dates as gospel. #ThaparHabibClan

Simply put, they may not have known the axis of the Earth makes a 26000 year revolution, causing the effect that is called "Precession" in English. But they observed it, called it "ayanAMsha" and figured out that at different times in history, seasons began at different months.

#ThaparHabibClan does the same,except they have zero primary knowledge of #Samskrta & all their works are borrowed from #Pollock #Witzel-ish argumentarians. I don't include #RutgersU #ArchitectureReuseExpert & her fans here 'cause their nuanced translation skills are well known😄

You said it! @bennedose :-) A good cause and effect hypothesis.

My thoughts are similar to yours. The grandmother-mAtAmahi language, could have originated anywhere- Closer to India very likely, as you mention the "substrate" words are least in Skt. It can explain multiple lang familes within Indian subcontinet for long time. @bennedose
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