Biden v. Trump 10/23 UPDATE

Nat’l: Biden +9.9/Clinton +7.1
EC: Biden 279-124 (+155)/Clinton 272-180 (+92)

AND Biden 50%+ in ELEVEN battlegrounds (49%+ in 13), ZERO for Clinton

PLUS Biden lead greater than undecideds + 3rd party in TEN battlegrounds, ZERO for Clinton

THREAD...
NOTES (con’t):

1. "Battleground": ≤10% in 2016 results or 2020 averages

2. Likely Voter (LV) when available, otherwise Registered Voter (RV); no Adult (A)

3. Polls w/3rd party used when given

4. Turnout-hypothesizing polls not used

5. Outliers (10%+ off of average) excluded
ETERNAL REMINDERS:

1. 2016 nat'l + battlegrounds polling AVERAGES were accurate (≥5%), except WI/IA:

aapor.org/Education-Reso…

2. This is NOT A FORECAST; it is a REPORT on the current data. Earliest guesses at election outcome on 11/1, and probably with caveats.
3. And FYI, forecasts aren't "yes/no" *predictions* They're probability reports, and 538's largely matched Team Trump's ~30%. Think of them like the hurricane path charts that show all possibilities, and indicating which ones are more likely.
CONTEXT for 10/23:

2016: 17 days to election
2020: 11 days to election

2016: final debate 10/19
2020: final debate 10/22
CONTEXT:

10/7/16: Access Hollywood tape ("grab them by the p*ssy"). ~90 minutes later, Clinton campaign emails released via coordination b/t Trump campaign, Russia, and Wikileaks (pics)

2020:

10/2-5: Trump CoVid diagnosis, hospital
10/14: Russian disinfo published in NY Post
A1. (Scientific) Polls on final debate show Biden won handily, and for Trump, anything other than an outright victory is a big loss. As always, the very small number of remaining undecideds means it won’t likely move numbers significantly (CNN poll suggests 0.5% gain for Biden).
A2. Some 2020 battleground *margins* similar to 2016, but Biden in much stronger position: 273 EV from states w/5%+ lead and average 50%+ (279 w/49%+). In these battlegrounds, Trump needs over 100% of late deciders, big turnout, AND to *convert* Biden supporters!

But in 2016...
A2b. On 10/23/16, ALL battlegrounds (margin ≤10%) had double-digit und/3rd, ZERO double-digit und/3rd on 10/23/20

In 2016, Trump needed 26-52% of und/3rd to take leads in "Clinton battlegrounds"

In 2020, Trump needs 81-265% of them to take leads in "Biden battlegrounds"
A2b. By Election Day 2016, Trump had gotten 56, 61, and 58% of undecideds + 3rd party supporters to flip MI, PA, WI

By Election Day 2020, Trump will need 127, 132, and 156%(!!!) of undecideds + 3rd party supporters to flip MI, PA, WI
A2c. ZERO battlegrounds lean Trump in 2020, THREE did in 2016

Biden has 10%+ lead in SIX battlegrounds, for Clinton only ONE

ALL BUT ONE 2020 tossup went red in 2016, and Biden’s margin is stronger than Clinton’s in EVERY ONE of these battlegrounds
A3. Also, in 2020 several pollsters started "weighting for education" by including more non-college voters, based on 2016 turnout. We’ll see if that turnout repeats in 2020, but it benefits Trump ~3%. So by 2016 practices, Biden would be as much as +12.9% nat'l, with 335 EC votes
Here’s a deep dive into polling crosstabs from 9/15-10/14 (next deep dive on 11/1), showing why Biden’s leading, early voting (more on this below), enthusiasm, and as always, way too many other reasons why 2020 is so very different from 2016:

B1. Early voting: numbers favor Dems, but they did in 2016 too, and polls indicate most GOP plan to vote on Election Day. Also, early voters are usually partisans, not swing voters, who break later (again, see 2016). In short, these numbers are no guarantee of the final outcome.
B3a. For example, Clinton had a 90,000 early voting lead in FL on Election Day, but Trump won the state by 107,000 votes. As we see in the numbers, the gap between Biden and Trump voters on early vs. election day is very wide in 2020.

politico.com/states/florida…
But even if turnout sustains Biden’s leads, polling can CHANGE. Clinton dropped 5-7% from 10/23/16 to Election Day (esp after Comey letter), costing her leads in states worth 69 electoral votes:
So check your registration, make your voting plan at IWillVote.com, and VOTE!!!

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15 Oct
Biden v. Trump 10/15 UPDATE

Nat’l: Biden +11.2/Clinton +6.2
EC: Biden 273-124 (+149)/Clinton 272-180 (+92)

AND Biden 50%+ in NINE battlegrounds (49%+ in 13), ZERO for Clinton

Biden lead greater than all undecideds + 3rd party in NINE battlegrounds, ZERO for Clinton

THREAD... ImageImageImageImage
NOTES (con’t):

1. "Battleground": ≤10% in 2016 results or 2020 averages

2. Likely Voter (LV) when available, otherwise Registered Voter (RV); no Adult (A)

3. Polls w/3rd party used when given

4. Turnout-hypothesizing polls not used

5. Outliers (10%+ off of average) excluded
ETERNAL REMINDERS:

1. 2016 nat'l + battlegrounds polling AVERAGES were accurate (≥5%), except WI/IA:

aapor.org/Education-Reso…

2. This is NOT A FORECAST; it is a REPORT on the current data. Earliest possible guess at election outcome 11/1, if then, and probably with caveats.
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1 Oct
@JoeBiden v. Trump 10/1 UPDATE

Nat’l: Biden +7.9 / Clinton +3.0
Electoral College votes: Biden 279-124 (+155) / Clinton 217-187 (+30)

Biden 50%+ in EIGHT battlegrounds, 49%+ in TWELVE
ZERO for Clinton; highest 44.3%, ≤42% in 15

>1%+ change since 9/15:
9 --> Biden
2 --> Trump ImageImageImageImage
NOTES (con’t):

1. "Battleground": ≤10% in 2016 results or 2020 polling averages

2. LV when available, otherwise RV; no A

3. Battleground polls w/3rd party used when available

4. Turnout-hypothesizing versions of polls not used

5. Outliers (10%+ off of average) excluded
ETERNAL REMINDERS:

1. 2016 nat'l + battlegrounds polling AVERAGES were accurate (≥5%), except WI/IA:

aapor.org/Education-Reso…

2. This thread is NOT A FORECAST; it is a REPORT on current data. Earliest possible guess at election outcome 11/1, if then, and probably with caveats.
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24 Sep
MINI-THREAD on polls:

Not that were's approaching the final 30 days, polls are gonna start coming fast and furious. PLEASE remember, it is the *averages* that matter, so don't freak out when you see 1-2 polls that show an undesirable result.

For example...
Today, Siena released a poll that shows Biden +3 in IA, while YouGov released a WI poll with Biden +4.

Demographics alone tell us those two numbers cannot both be accurate, but if you feed them into the averages, you'll get a better picture. ImageImage
Also, watch for first-time pollsters: yesterday's freak out was on the ABC/WaPo and Ipsos polls, but turns out neither had polled those states before, so we have no idea what the trendlines are, or what numbers their model tends to create in respect to the averages. ImageImage
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22 Sep
@JoeBiden v. Trump 9/22 UPDATE

Biden +7.4 / Clinton +1.6
EC: Biden 284-124 (+160) / Clinton 222-181 (+41)

Biden 50%+ in 7 battlegrounds, 49%+ in 11
0 for Clinton; highest 44.4%, ≥41% in 10/18

Since 9/15: 9 of 18 -> Biden (largest ME: 5.7); 6 even; 3 -> Trump (largest OH, 0.9) ImageImageImageImage
NOTES (con’t):

1. "Battleground": ≤10% in 2016 results or 2020 polling averages

2. LV when available, otherwise RV; no A

3. Polls w/3rd party used when available

4. Turnout-hypothesizing versions of polls not used

5. Outliers (10%+ off of polling average) excluded
ETERNAL REMINDERS:

1. 2016 nat'l + battlegrounds polling *averages* were ACCURATE (≥5%), except WI/IA:

aapor.org/Education-Reso…

2. This is NOT A FORECAST. Also, forecasts aren't "yes/no" *predictions. They're *probability reports (538's largely matched Team Trump's at ~30%). ImageImageImage
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15 Sep
@JoeBiden v. Trump 9/15 UPDATE

Nat'l: Biden +7.8 / Clinton +1.6

EC: Biden 283-124 (+159) / Clinton 212-210 (+2)

Biden 50%+ in FIVE battlegrounds, 49%+ in TEN.

ZERO for Clinton: highest 44.9%, ≥40% in 10/18

Next up: convention bumps real? Enthusiasm gap gone?
NOTES (con’t):

1. "Battleground": ≤10% in 2016 results or 2020 polling averages

2. LV when available, otherwise RV; no A

3. Polls w/3rd party used when available

4. Turnout-hypothesizing versions of polls not used

5. Outliers (10%+ off of polling average) excluded
ETERNAL REMINDERS:

1. 2016 nat'l + battlegrounds polling *averages* were ACCURATE (≥5%), except WI/IA:

aapor.org/Education-Reso…

2. This is NOT A FORECAST. Also, forecasts aren't "yes/no" predictions* They're probability reports (fyi, 538's largely matched Team Trump's at ~30%)
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6 Sep
@JoeBiden v. Trump 9/6 UPDATE

Nat'l: Biden +7.0/Clinton +3.1
EC: Biden 289-125 (+174) / Clinton 251-164 (+87)

Biden 50%+ in NINE battlegrounds, Clinton ZERO (highest 45.2%, 13 under 42%)

No convention bounces in nat'l polls. Notable changes: AZ 2.1 -> Biden, FL 2.8 -> Trump
NOTES (con’t):

1. "Battleground": ≤10% in 2016 results or 2020 polling averages

2. Polls with 3rd party candidates used, when available

3. High/low turnout-hypothesizing versions of polls not used

4. Outliers (10%+ off of polling average) removed
Polling versus forecasts:

A1. 2016 polling *averages* were ACCURATE (≥5%), nat'l + swing states, except WI/IA

aapor.org/Education-Reso…

Most election *forecasts*—which this thread is NOT—were not. 538's forecast largely matched odds from Trump’s internal pollsters at ~30%.
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