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27 Oct, 8 tweets, 6 min read
🇨🇦 #billc6 debate part 1. The transcript of yesterday's debate on conversion therapy legislation is now available online. I will review it and add comments to this thread throughout the day. The debate will resume this morning.
ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer…
🇨🇦 #billc6 debate part 2. First up, an eloquent speech by @GarnettGenuis at around page 1910. He explains how the definition of conversion therapy is a major overreach and needs to be fixed. Unfortunately, he does not discuss therapy for gender dysphoria in detail.
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#billc6 debate part 3. Comments by Conservative justice critic @RobMoore_CPC are also encouraging. He speaks about the need for the justice committee to hear from all stakeholders, including therapists dealing with gender dysphoria, to revise the definition in the bill.
🇨🇦 #Billc6 debate part 4. In response to a question from @r_garrison about why the bill did not include a "total ban" on conversion therapy, @MinJusticeEn says that he will be tabling a charter statement which explains the government's reasons for not going further.
#Billc6 debate part 5. @RhealFortin asked a question where he accused @GarnettGenuis of seeking support of extreme religious communities. The response is crushing.

openparliament.ca/debates/2020/1…

openparliament.ca/debates/2020/1…
#BillC6 debate part 6. @Cooper4SAE gave a well thought out speech where he highlighted the discrepancies between the assurances the minister gave above not criminalizing private conversations and what the bill actually says.
openparliament.ca/debates/2020/1…
#Billc6 debate part 7. @r_garrison does not seem to understand the basic terminology used to discuss gender identity. He thinks that "reparative therapy" and "gender affirming therapy" are equivalent concepts when they are in fact polar opposites.
openparliament.ca/debates/2020/1…
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25 Oct
While the debate on #billc6 to ban conversion therapy is being presented as a fight for the LGBTQ community, many LGBT people, and lesbians in particular, have serious concerns about the legislation. @artymortyarty explains in this video. /2
This site, created by a group of LGBT people, explores the issue in more detail. The basic concern is that conversion therapy laws will lead many children who would otherwise grow up to be lesbian or gay to misdiagnosed as transgender. /3
genderhq.org/conversion-the…
This is an acute concern for the lesbian community. Young lesbians often do not fully realize their identity until they are in their 20s. By that time they may have had at least a double mastectomy. /4
4thwavenow.com/2016/01/25/the…
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24 Oct
@DavidLametti @MinJusticeEn It sounds like your latest talking point on #Billc6 is that parents don't have to worry because the bill does not prohibit exploratory psychotherapy for gender dysphoria. The text of the bill does not support this. /2
The language of the bill is vague. @JamesCantorPhD describes the terminology as "incomprehensible" and is concerned that it will restrict therapists from helping patients become comfortable with their original gender . /3
sexologytoday.org/2020/10/bill-c…
The effects of the bill can be judged from the effects of existing conversion therapy bans. Parents are having difficulty finding therapists who will perform a proper mental health assessment before approving transition. /4
genderreport.ca/gender-dysphor…
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15 Oct
🇨🇦 Getting needed changes to #BillC6 on conversion therapy is going to require an unlikely alliance. The only elected officials who are willing to criticize the bill are members of the social conservative wing of the Conservative party. They are a minority and need allies. /2
The potential allies are a diverse group I will loosely describe as "gender critical" whose main concern is the treatment of gender identity. This group includes doctors, psychologists, feminists, parents of dysphoric kids and de-transitioners. Many are LGB or LGB supporters. /3
In order to make this alliance work, both sides need to accept some hard facts. The social conservatives need to accept that therapy cannot change sexual orientation. Many gays and lesbians have suffered serious abuse at the hands of conservative religious leaders. /4
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9 Oct
🇨🇦 @MinJusticeEn, has your department done a Charter review of #Billc6? The applicable law is here. The key requirement is that the means that the law employs must be proportionate to the objective. One element of this test is /2
justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rf…
minimum restriction of protected rights. Instead of attempting to follow this principle, the drafters of Bill C-6 have aimed for maximum reach. There is no attempt whatsoever to respect the rights of religious groups to promote their teachings and the language of the bill /3
even extends to activities which are necessary and desirable. For example, it would be a crime to try to stop a 14 year old boy from having sex with older men or to help a 17 year old repress his attraction to younger children. The bill should be withdrawn and redrafted.
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6 Oct
🇨🇦People have been asking me how long they have to submit a brief on #billc8 on conversion therapy. The short answer is I don't know but my best guess is at least 4 - 6 weeks. A longer answer requires an explanation of the process of passing a law in Canada. /2
Every bill goes through 3 readings in the House of Commons and Senate. First reading is the introduction of the Bill. It took place on Thursday. At second reading the bill is debated in principle. This could start as early as Oct 7 but probably won't for at least a week. /3
If you have concerns you want raised at second reading, write or call MPs. @GenderReportCA has a template letter you can use as a starting point. The bill is going to pass second reading. The Liberals can combine with the NDP and Bloc to pass it. /4
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2 Oct
🇨🇦 You can follow the progress of #billc6 to ban 'conversion therapy' at this link.
parl.ca/LegisInfo/Bill…
The bill is the same wording as Bill C8 from the last session with all the multiple drafting flaws. While Minister of Justice @MinJusticeEn David Lametti has been /2
that the bill is not intended to criminalize private conversations or expressions of opinions, he has not been very clear on what it does ban. Everyone is agreeing that certain forms of conversion therapy' very band and should be banned but nobody can say what they are. /3
This is not acceptable when you are talking about criminal laws which carry a maximum penalty of give years in prison. Is there anyone in the government who can give a concrete example of a practice that the bill will ban or an example of a practice that is permitted? /4
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