@Rossana38510044 @jhouse678 @franciscodeasis @nature @edwardcholmes @arambaut @angie_rasmussen @K_G_Andersen 1/ Here's some takeaways from Zhou et al's Addendum.

First, some background:

• The authors' earlier version of the Tongguan mine sampling (Ge et al. 2016) says "we conducted a surveillance of coronaviruses in bats in an abandoned mineshaft (...) from 2012–2013." Image
@Rossana38510044 @jhouse678 @franciscodeasis @nature @edwardcholmes @arambaut @angie_rasmussen @K_G_Andersen 2/
• The 2016 paper reports a total of 276 bat samples, where the authors detected "150 sequences homologous to alphacoronaviruses" and "two sequences (HiBtCoV/3740-2 and RaBtCoV/4991) homologous to betacoronaviruses"
• Only one of those beta CoVs was said to be SARS-related.
@Rossana38510044 @jhouse678 @franciscodeasis @nature @edwardcholmes @arambaut @angie_rasmussen @K_G_Andersen 3/
• That SARS-related beta CoV is of course RaBtCoV/4991, which the authors renamed RaTG13 in their Feb. 2020 Nature paper "A pneumonia outbreak associated with a new coronavirus of probable bat origin"
• This is the paper to which they now felt the need to publish an Addendum
@Rossana38510044 @jhouse678 @franciscodeasis @nature @edwardcholmes @arambaut @angie_rasmussen @K_G_Andersen 4/
• This Addendum confirms that the Tongguan mine sampling was prompted by a cluster of unexplained severe pneumonia in 2012, that killed 3 out of 6 infected mine workers, of suspected viral origin
• Authors also confirm they received & tested blood samples from these patients
@Rossana38510044 @jhouse678 @franciscodeasis @nature @edwardcholmes @arambaut @angie_rasmussen @K_G_Andersen 5/
• The Addendum says that, besides the previously reported 276 bat samples collected in 2012-2013, a further 1046 samples were collected in 2014-2015
• In these additional samples the authors detected more 134 alpha CoVs, and 7 beta CoVs, that apparently remain unpublished
@Rossana38510044 @jhouse678 @franciscodeasis @nature @edwardcholmes @arambaut @angie_rasmussen @K_G_Andersen 6/
• While in their first report (Ge et al. 2016), only one of the two reported beta CoVs was said to be SARS-related, the authors now say all 9 beta CoVs found in the Tongguan mine (apparently 2 detected in 2012-2013 samples + 7 detected 2014-2015 samples) are SARS-related.
@Rossana38510044 @jhouse678 @franciscodeasis @nature @edwardcholmes @arambaut @angie_rasmussen @K_G_Andersen 7/ Some outstanding questions:

• Did the Wuhan Institute of Virology receive other samples from the infected Tongguan mine workers besides the serum samples reported in Zhou et al. Addendum? (Li Xu's Master's thesis reports a thymectomy performed in one of the patients)
@Rossana38510044 @jhouse678 @franciscodeasis @nature @edwardcholmes @arambaut @angie_rasmussen @K_G_Andersen 8/End
• Are the unreported beta CoVs detected in Tongguan mine samples from 2014-2015 the 78XX group reported in Latinne et al (2020)?
• Is it a coincidence that this group seems closely related to RaTG13 and that a 7896 label shows up in RaTG13 amplicons?

h/t @franciscodeasis ImageImageImage
@Rossana38510044 @jhouse678 @franciscodeasis @nature @edwardcholmes @arambaut @angie_rasmussen @K_G_Andersen "Recently, we retested the [2012 serum] samples with our validated enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) against (...) SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid protein (...) and confirmed that these patients were not infected by SARS-CoV-2."

Is this even immunologically sound @K_G_Andersen?

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22 Nov
@gsgs2 @franciscodeasis @Rossana38510044 @jhouse678 @nature @edwardcholmes @arambaut @angie_rasmussen @K_G_Andersen Questions/hypotheses about SARS-CoV-2 origin mustn't distract us from established facts. Sequential recap:

1/ A bat-derived coronavirus (CoV) starts an outbreak near a bat CoV research center, the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV)
2/ WIV's virus database is noticed to be offline
@gsgs2 @franciscodeasis @Rossana38510044 @jhouse678 @nature @edwardcholmes @arambaut @angie_rasmussen @K_G_Andersen 3/ In a February 2020 paper, WIV admits having possession (since 2013) of one close relative of the outbreak virus, but fails to cite its own 2016 paper where it had been published as RaBtCoV/4991
@gsgs2 @franciscodeasis @Rossana38510044 @jhouse678 @nature @edwardcholmes @arambaut @angie_rasmussen @K_G_Andersen 4/ They rename this close relative RaTG13; omit the original name & accession; publish a full genome, but only partial raw data; & imply they had recently sequenced it
5/ An anti-lab origin campaign starts immediately, orchestrated by WIV research associates EcoHealth Alliance
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12 Nov
1/ Re-upping this thread on the origins of #COVID-19. It makes a compelling case for a possible lab escape.

Magnitudes more plausible that SARS-CoV-2 emerged from a lab in Wuhan (known to be lacking in safety protocols) than from a 100% natural zoonosis.
3/ At what point will we hear a proper call for a true investigation into the suspicious inaccuracies and inconsistencies?

@c_drosten @trvrb @edyong209 @MackayIM @kakape @AdamJKucharski @mlipsitch @nataliexdean

Some have, but more voices are needed!

pnas.org/content/early/…
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20 Aug
1. While awaiting @shingheizhan reassembling of RaTG13, here's a thread with some odd features reported by authors who made use of its GenBank sequence. Most of them used the sequence for other research goals, rather than assessing it, so its anomalies are mentioned incidentally.
2. This Feb 2020 preprint found that synonymous mutations "are dramatically elevated between SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13" and "enriched in T:C transition."

Since some RNA mutagens "could induce the same mutation pattern", authors suggest further investigation.
biorxiv.org/content/10.110…
3. @Nerdhaspower's was the first paper I read raising doubts about RaTG13 sequence.
Issue: two bat CoVs show nonsyn mutations evenly distributed along their S sequences. For RaTG13 vs SARS-CoV-2 they appear heavily concentrated around codons 300-500. Why?

nerdhaspower.weebly.com/ratg13-is-fake…
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