As expected, our @washingtonpost editorial today on the delayed second dose vaccine strategy has generated a vigorous and interesting dialogue. tinyurl.com/y7c6v9hz Here are my takeaways (a thread): 1/18
The debate is healthy. There are pros and cons to the current strategy and the alternative we present, and there are real uncertainties associated with them both. They should debated thoughtful and studied to the degree possible. 2/18
Many people seem focused on the source of the delays in vaccination, as if it matters whether the bottleneck is from vaccine production or distribution/injection. I don’t think it does. Starting soon, there will be doses available and people to inject them – and... 3/18
... the next dose can either go to someone who is coming around for their second injection 3-4 weeks after their first, or to someone getting their first shot. Policymakers need to choose which strategy does the most good at a societal level. 4/18
As we said in the op-ed, it may make sense to stick with the early 2nd dose to the most vulnerable (over 75, nursing home) or most exposed (frontline healthcare workers). The small drop in efficacy from the 2nd-dose-later strategy might be quite meaningful in these groups. 5/18
Nothing about our stance should imply that we shouldn’t be doing everything possible to improve supply & distribution – as if it's one or the other. This is a public health emergency – we must move faster.

But even more focus & funding won't fix the problems quickly... 6/18
... and so the question remains: what to do when we have a dose that is ready to be injected. Particularly with the threat of the new, more contagious variant looming. 7/18
Some have called sticking w/ the timing used in the trials “scientific” & altering the timing "not scientific". To me, this is polemical. The studies may not have been primarily focused on testing the question of how effective the 1st dose is before giving the 2nd dose...8/18
... But they DID test it, within the limits of statistical inference. "Scientific" is not just a clinical trial, but also the sciences of public policy, public health, epidemiology, & sociology. We have to take all the information we have and use it to make the best choices. 9/18
In terms of the counter-arguments that have been raised today, few credible scientists have argued that a 2 month delay in dose 2 will compromise the strength/durability of the ultimate immune response. In fact, some have argued that it might enhance it. 10/18
The possibility that immunity will wane between doses 1 and 2 has been raised by some, but also doesn’t seem to be a major concern – particularly given the miniscule reinfection rate that we’ve seen from natural infection and the robust immune response seen after dose one. 11/18
The most credible arguments – and I know @ashishkjha and I are both concerned about them – are:

a. The possibility that “partial immunity” will spawn harmful mutations – we'll need more virologists to weigh in on this; it could change the calculus tinyurl.com/y9f6xlrm 12/18
b. Concern that delay means more people won’t return for 2nd dose – we can probably estimate this from other programs w/ return visits at variable times. Is it really true that people will have a harder time coming back in 3 months than 1, or we'll lose track of them more? 13/18
c. Whether change in vaccine schedule will lead to more vaccine hesitancy. I could see this going either way – delayed 2nd dose gives more people a chance at earlier vaccination during a surge, so could increase rates. Or the opposite, from another curveball. Hard to know. 14/18
Choosing to change to the deferred 2nd dose strategy is is a big decision (note that the UK has already made it) and so we need our best experts thinking about it. We should also be looking at sophisticated models that use credible inputs for all the key variables:... 15/18
... including efficacy after 1 vs. 2 doses, impact of delay on efficacy & durability of immunity, reasonable estimates of missed second dose and overall vaccination rates, estimated frequency and impact of clinically meaningful mutations. But most importantly... 16/18
... overall lives saved, and lost, with each potential strategy.

The context for the debate is the near certainty that we'll lose another 50-100K Americans this month, and we're threatened by a mutation that may accelerate the tragedies. So time is a crucial variable. 17/18
Our goal was to contribute to the debate, and it has mostly been civil & fact-based. Everybody wants to take advantage of these amazingly effective vaccines to save the most lives. Let’s put our best minds, data, and models to this question, so we can make the best choices. 18/18

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31 Dec 20
U.S. is now considering idea of a single vaccination shot, delaying shot #2 until months later. Last wk, I thought that was a bad idea – the trials that found 95% efficacy were 2 shots; why add extra complexity & a new curveball. But facts on the ground demand a rethink. (1/7)
The two main changes are the slower-than-expected vaccine rollout and the new variant virus being found in the U.S. Both demand that we turbocharge the process of getting a large chunk of the population at least partly protected. (2/7)
Here's my back-of-the-envelope math:
- Single shot seems to be about 80% protective after a month
- 2nd shot adds some efficacy (up to 95% protective), and maybe (tho not yet proven) some durability.
- New variant is here, and undoubtedly far more widespread than we know. (3/7)
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30 Dec 20
1/ Covid (@UCSF) Chronicles, Day 287

Today, a brief update on the local situation in SF & CA, and then a few reflections on a series of new failures in the U.S. that, sadly, make clear how difficult it is for our country to get execution right in the fight against Covid-19.
2/ First, a brief update on the local scene. Bottom line: not much change, which is either good or bad news, depending on how you feel about half-filled (or empty) glasses. Personally, I don’t feel great about it, since we’re just starting to see the impact of holiday mingling.
3/ TSA reported 1.3 million people screened at airports Sunday, a 60% decrease from last year but still an awful lot of travel for a country that should be staying home. After 10 months, the urge to be with friends & family is understandable, but the cost will be very high.
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25 Dec 20
1/ Covid (@UCSF) Chronicles, Day 282

Holiday greetings – hope you’re getting a little R&R. I’m on clinical svc @ucsfhospitals – welcome break from a Life of Zoom, leavened by a little Netflix. Today, update on Covid in SF/CA, & lessons from first 2 wks of vaccine distribution.
2/ @UCSFHospitals, 60 pts in hospital, 12 on vents (Fig on L). Curve shows we may have plateaued – at a pretty high # but one that isn’t overly stressing system. Our test positivity rates (Fig R) have inched down a bit in the past week. Maybe things are starting to turn around.
3/ SF cases up to 288/d (Fig L) – low when compared to many regions (incl. SoCal), but 10x SF's Oct cases. Test positivity still inching up, now 4.3%. 176 Covid pts in SF hospitals; perhaps hint of a plateau? (Fig R). Cumulative deaths=178, w/ only 12 in past 30d – amazingly low.
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19 Dec 20
1/ Covid (@UCSF) Chronicles, Day 276

Here’s my summary of yesterday’s fascinating grand rounds (sorry it's a day late), here: Far-ranging discussion re: the problems at the CDC, vaccine roll-out @ucsf, and the complex matter of immunity passports.
2/ Session began with a fireside chat w/ Julie Gerberding, a @UCSF adjunct faculty member who ran @CDCgov from 2002-2009, and led @Merck's vaccine development program afterwards. I asked Julie about how the CDC prepared for a pandemic during her tenure as director.
3/ “SARS was a wakeup call,” she said, particularly after post-9/11 anthrax attacks. “After that, we got very serious about influenza… it led to a major investment in pandemic preparedness,” including full scale table-top pandemic preparedness exercises with every state.
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15 Dec 20
1/ Covid (@UCSF) Chronicles, Day 272

The juxtaposition is jarring: the first U.S. vaccine recipient on the day we hit 300,000 deaths. So much tragedy amid the hopefulness. Today, after an update on SF, I’ll lay out some complex issues that will play out in the next few months.
2/ San Francisco is now seeing its first big surge, & everybody's asking when the city will turn things around. After having stomped on the curve in March & quickly turned back a surge in June, I thought – if anybody can control this surge – it would be SF. I may have been wrong.
3/ The curve of SF hospitalizations (Fig) shows no signs of plateau after 6 wks, despite stay-at-home orders (note that June surge had plateaued by 6 wks). The combo of pandemic fatigue, colder weather, and the holidays has given the virus the upper hand. We’re losing the battle.
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11 Dec 20
1/ Covid (@UCSF) Chronicles, Day 268

Today was Pfizer Vaccine Day @US_FDA, and the expert panel just recommended EUA approval tinyurl.com/y5u84jmx Next: FDA deliberates, but expect an EUA in next 1-2 days. As with All-Things-Covid, nothing is easy; now the hard part begins.
2/ Today: quick state of the pandemic, then potpourri of vaccine-related stuff.

SF still in our first true surge. @ucsfhospitals 39 Covid pts, 10 on vents (Fig). Test pos 11.9% in symptomatic pts, 1.6 in asymptomatics, both way up. In SF, cases now 181/d (vs ~30/d last mth)…
3/ …& 129 Covid pts in SF hospitals (vs ~25 last mth; Fig). Luckily, deaths have not yet ticked up: 165, still lowest rate in U.S. But with this many people in ICUs, more deaths can’t be far behind. SF test positivity rate is 3.4%, rising but still well below CA’s rate of 8.8%.
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