1/ The Australian "Nebulizer-gate" maybe a red herring to distract from the fact that airborne transmission of COVID-19 happens all the time

I've been following this story, which didn't make a lot of sense to me:

bloomberg.com/news/articles/…
2/ A nebulizer is a device that produces aerosols containing a medicine, that are breathed in by a patient. See e.g. this video:

3/ If those aerosols contact the respiratory tract of the person, they will stick there. There is no physical way for the virus on the lining of the respiratory tract to "jump" onto the medicine containing aerosols.
4/ This UK reports says as much:

"during nebulisation, the aerosol derives from a non-patient source (the fluid in the nebuliser chamber) and does not carry patient-derived viral particles. If a particle in the aerosol coalesces with a contaminated mucous membrane...
5/ ... it will cease to be airborne and therefore will not be part of an aerosol."

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/upl…
6/ If the person is infected, they may also exhale respiratory aerosols that contain the virus. ALL THE TIME, not just when using the nebulizer.

Perhaps the nebulizer might increase the emission of virus-containing aerosols? (Is there any evidence for this? If so pls link here)
7/ Most likely explanation IMHO: Australian health authorities do not want to accept the evidence (obvious in this case and in many other cases, such as the Skagit choir outbreak that we investigated, see thread) that COVID is airborne all the time.

8/ They try to distract from fact that #COVIDisAirborne all the time, by implying this was a very unusual "aerosol-generating procedure (AGP)"

@WHO has mentioned AGPs. Trouble being that actually many of those AGPs don't seem to generate much aerosol:

…-publications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/an…
9/ But this is not the only airborne case in quarantine hotels. And New Zealand is less afraid to admit that those hotel cases are most likely airborne transmission:

10/ We know from other diseases that it is almost impossible to unequivocally prove airborne transmission until isolated cases happen in complete absence of community transmission.
11/ E.g. smallpox airborne transmission was disputed for centuries, and was only finally proven in 1971.

An outbreak occurred in a hospital in Germany in complete absence of community transmission, and the only possible explanation was airborne trans.

academic.oup.com/aje/article-ab…
12/ These hotel outbreaks seem like the canary in the coal mine for airborne transmission of COVID-19. New Zealand seems to be learning from them. Australia seems bent on denial

Australia's ICEG seems to have some stunningly recalcitrant aerosol deniers:

13/ If people have technical information that complements or contradicts what I am saying, please send it my way. But I have seen this pattern of denial before in other places (hint: @WHO and many governments), so I thought it was important to point out this possibility.
14/ Although I had not seen @kprather88's tweet when I wrote my thread, it seems that I am not the only aerosol expert to share this view. (Kim is member of BOTH the US National Academy of Sciences and National Academy of Engineering - highly respected)

15/ And yet another thread explaining it more clearly than I did:

16/ An another prominent aerosol scientist (Editor of a major scientific journal), familiar with nebulizers, saying the same thing:

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13 Feb
1/ Una entrevista con bastante detalle sobre temas candentes de transmisión de COVID-19 on @irianovo en @Niusdiario

[Los temas son mucho mas amplios que lo que sugiere el titular]

niusdiario.es/ciencia-y-tecn…
2/ DOBLE MASCARILLA?

"Hay situaciones en las que sí puede ayudar. Si te pones una quirúrgica, la mascarilla filtra bien pero deja huecos. Ponerle encima una mascarilla de tela grande y que cierre los huecos puede ayudar."

[Pero no si no ayuda a cerrar huecos!]
3/ DOBLE MASCARILLA?

"Otra doble mascarilla que parece q es muy útil: poner una quirúrgica encima de una FFP2, si tienes FFP2 orejera. Las que sellan bien son las FFP2 con los hilos por detrás de la nuca, porque las orejeras casi todas sellan mal.

[Quirúrgica ayuda a sellar]
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12 Feb
Mascarillas elastoméricas: solución al ajuste, el principal problema de las demás

"Noto que sellan mucho mejor, y más consistentemente. Y son menos cansadas de llevar. A medio plazo creo q se impondrán y N95 actuales serán una reliquia"

niusdiario.es/ciencia-y-tecn… por @irianovo
Ese modelo en concreto tiene válvula (para e.g. poder usarlas después de la pandemia en trabajos en sitios polvorientos). Pero vienen con un tapón que sella la válvula. Que yo sepa no están disponibles en Europa todavía.
Estas hechas en España son parecidas pero no has he probado: haikoo.eu. En particular no veo como es el sello contra la cara.

@s_huertasrios, habéis probado esas Haikoo, o os animaríais a hacerlo?
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10 Feb
The coronavirus is airborne. Here’s how to know if you’re breathing other people’s breath.

EXCELLENT article on using CO2 meters to make indoor spaces safer. Which should arrive to stay permanently.

washingtonpost.com/health/2021/02…

By @chriscmooney

#covidCO2
2/ "The impetus for measuring carbon dioxide is simple: An increasingly powerful body of evidence suggests the coronavirus is airborne, capable of traveling distances well beyond six feet in tiny aerosols released when infected people talk, shout, sing or just breathe...
3/ "But there’s currently no sensor that can monitor, in real time, whether these infectious aerosols are floating around us when we’re indoors. But CO2 can act as a proxy. People exhale it when they breathe, and the gas builds up in indoor spaces that aren’t well ventilated."
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8 Feb
Temo que estemos a apunto de sufrir un tsunami de COVID en los próximos meses, con las variantes mucho más contagiosas en crecimiento exponencial. Y con la gente cansadísima y relajándose porque llegan las vacunas (que llegan demasiado despacio), y los gobiernos muy tímidos.
"Dar la alarma no es alarmista si es realista"

No solo lo digo yo. Lo esta advirtiendo mucha gente. Aquí @zeynep

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7 Feb
1/ Me pregunta una alcalde de una localidad mediana como puede estar informado al día de la ciencia, para hacerlo lo mejor posible con respecto a la COVID.

Lo pongo aquí por si les sirve a otros, y porque seguro que aprendo yo también de los comentarios.
2/ Por supuesto hay que seguir a @WHO, @CDCespanol, @sanidadgob.

El problema es que van muy lentos y muy por detrás de la ciencia. Y cuando hay un error que lleva mucho tiempo (como el contagio por el aire), les resulta muy difícil aceptarlo.
3/ La OMS además solo puede recomendar cosas que son factibles en todas partes. Hasta en los países mas pobres. Por eso han ido tan lentos en muchas cosas.

La OMS dice que ellos dicen un mínimo, y que los países pueden poner recomendaciones que requieran mas recursos.
Read 14 tweets
7 Feb
1/ Arquitectura de un supercontagio: cómo el virus se instaló dos semanas en un edificio de Bilbao

Un caso interesante. Comento algunas cosas que el articulo no toca.

elpais.com/sociedad/2021-… a través de @el_pais

Por @pedrogorospe y @Pablolinde
2/ Lo mas importante, debería hacerse un estudio genómico en estos brotes (enlace). Entonces se puede saber con certeza si todos los casos están relacionados. Con tantísimos casos en sociedad, puede ser coincidencia con gente q se contagia en otros sitios

3/ Tambien vemos el error de demasiado énfasis en superficies:

"Contrató a una empresa de desinfección y la noche del 26 al 27 una firma especializada procedió a la limpieza de las zonas comunes del edificio. Una factura de cerca de 700 euros que pagó íntegramente la comunidad"
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