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@hamsanandi

8 Mar

Girish Karnad claims in his play #Rakshasatangadi the temple destructon in Hampi was an "insider job"- citing still Virupaksha temple stands tall.

So can he explain why the #Nagareshwara temple in #Halebeedu is totally razed to the ground, while #Hoysaleshwara is mostly intact?

Here both shines were Shiva temples. There could be multiple reasons - Nagareswara for being the personal temple where the Kings worshipped was targeted first, and before they finished the job the Hoysala troups were able to guard Hoysaleshara? Your guess is as good as mine.

But the point is so called sahitis from Karnataka have normalized these to based on some random paper by one prof in Columbia. This is due to the white-skin-infliction. Where is thinking power when we need it?

Sorry to say the same trend in the latest historical novel as well.

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@hamsanandi

21 Feb

@karatalaamalaka

@karatalaamalaka I think the language families in India can be explained by multiple migrations in prehistoric times; By historic times ( i.e. earliest archeological remains are at Mehrgarh, IIRC - which are 9000 years ago) - the two families had already settled in with some intermingling

@karatalaamalaka

@karatalaamalaka The due-east-Krittikas description put parts of the Veda at least around ~3000 BCE. the 1500- 600 BCE span as imaginged by Max Mueller must go back by at least 1500 years imo.

We have Vedanga Jyotisha corresponding to the sky situation ~1400 BCE (give or take a century)

@karatalaamalaka

@karatalaamalaka And VJ was NOT written outside of Saptasindhu - Very likely at the upper reaches of it like in Kashmira or in around Kubha river (Kabul) by the latitude indication. Definitely not much north or south of that location.

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@hamsanandi

21 Feb

While reading works of #Shamba etc, we shouldn't forget their thoughts were clouded by colonial narratives. I find very strange and odd, fell for the black-white racist theories as well. The names like ಕಾಳವ್ವ, ಕರಿಯಪ್ಪ aren't specific to Kannada. Didn't we have काली & कृष्ण ?

How the bias does show up in #Shamba's writing. We should not forget a writer is product of their times.

Very clear #Shamba has totally fallen for the Dravida-Arya racist theories of the 18th-19th centuries.

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@hamsanandi

15 Feb

Interesting observation about a manuscript that may have been written in ~1850

#AbhinavaBharataSaraSangraha #RaSathyanarayana #MummaDiChikkaBhupala #Sippegowda

Remember some podcast where doubts were cast about Kautalya's authorship of #Arthashastra, because of the "Kautalya says" quotes in there.
But that is the way of Samskrta/Bharatiya/Indian texts till much later. Here is a text from ~1650, of #MummaDiChikkaBhupala of such self-ref

Every king, big and small has been compared to #BhojaRaja when they were supporting artists/poets. Here is the #Birudavali of #ImmadiChikkabhupala, aka #ChikkappagGowda , chieftain of Madhugiri, Karnataka ~1600CE

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@hamsanandi

2 Feb

@sathvik_nv

@sathvik_nv @acharya2 @Ashwin_K_Ash #ಅಯ್ಯೋಶಿವನೆ, ಶಂಬಾಜೋಶಿ, ಬಿಎಮ್‍ಶ್ರೀ ಅಥವಾ ಡಿಎನ್‍ಎನ್ ಅವರ ಕಾಲಕ್ಕೇ ಬೆಳಗಾಗಲಿಲ್ಲ. ಅವರಿಗೂ ಸಾವಿರಾರು ವರ್ಷದ ಹಿಂದಿನಿಂದ ಈ ವಿಷಯಗಳನ್ನು ತಿಳಿದವರು ಇಲ್ಲವೇ? ಹೊಸಬರ ಮಹತ್ವ ಗುರುತಿಸೋಣ. ಆದರೆ ಹಳಬರ ಹಿರಿಮೆ ಮರೆಯದಿರೋಣ. 🙏

@sathvik_nv

@sathvik_nv @acharya2 @Ashwin_K_Ash ಇವತ್ತಿನ ದಿನದಲ್ಲಿ , ಓದಲು ಶಂಕರ ಭಟ್ಟರ ಕನ್ನಡಕ್ಕೆ ಬೇಕು ಕನ್ನಡದ್ದೇ ವ್ಯಾಕರಣ ಒಳ್ಳೆಯ ಪುಸ್ತಕವೇ. ಆದರೆ , ಬಹುಪಾಲು ಶಾಸ್ತ್ರ ಗ್ರಂಥ ಗಳನ್ನು ಓದಲು ಬೇಕಾಗುವಂತೆ ಇದನ್ನು ಓದಲೂ ಒಂದು ಮಟ್ಟದ ತಯಾರಿ ಬೇಕು. ಅದಿಲ್ಲದೇ ಓದಿದರೆ ಕಷ್ಟ.
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@sathvik_nv

@sathvik_nv @acharya2 @Ashwin_K_Ash ಉದಾ: ಸಂಧಿಯನ್ನು ಸೇರಿಕೆ, ಸಮಾಸವನ್ನು ಒಟ್ಟುಪದ, ಕೂಡುಪದ ಎಂದು ಶಂಕರ ಭಟ್ಟರು ಹೇಳುವುದರಲ್ಲಿ ಕ್ರಾಂತಿಕಾರಿ ಹೊಸ ವಿಚಾರ ಏನೂ ಹೇಳಲಿಲ್ಲ , ಬದಲಾಗಿ ಪಾರಿಭಾಷಿಕ ಪದ ಒಂದನ್ನು ಹೊಸದಾಗಿ ಹೇಳಿದ್ದಾರೆ.

ಪಾರಿಭಾಷಿಕ ಪದಗಳನ್ನು ಪೂರ್ವ ಪ್ರಸಿದ್ಧ ವಾದದ್ದನ್ನೇ ತೆಗೆದುಕೊಳ್ಳುವುದು ಒಂದು ದಾರಿ ಆದರೆ ಇದು ಇನ್ನೊಂದು ದಾರಿ.ಎರಡೂ ಸರಿಯೇ.
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@hamsanandi

31 Jan

#VivekaChintamani #NijagunaShivayogi

First time seeing association of Lion with the #madhyama swara. And also the nakshatra, tithi association with musical notes. Or at least if I had read earlier, I have forgotten 🙊

@ShrikaanthK

#VivekaChintamani #NijagunaShivayogi #ವಿವೇಕಚಿಂತಾಮಣಿ #ನಿಜಗುಣಶಿವಯೋಗಿ

Also he gives a totally different set of names for the 22 shrutis

cc: @ShrikaanthK @Raaga_Suresh @santhi_ps

#VivekaChintamani #NijagunaShivayogi #ವಿವೇಕಚಿಂತಾಮಣಿ #ನಿಜಗುಣಶಿವಯೋಗಿ He does not use the term #BatteesaRaga #BatteesRaag but calls them in Kannada as ಮೂವತ್ತೆರಡು ರಾಗಂಗಳು.

(ಕರ್ನಾಟಕದ ದಕ್ಷಿಣ ತುದಿಯ ಕೊಳ್ಳೇಗಾಲದವರಾಗಿದ್ದರಿಂದ ಇರಬಹುದು)

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