They recently posted their S-1, in which they suspiciously never talk about their revenue from their retail app vs their revenue from the institutional Coinbase Pro trading exchange. sec.gov/Archives/edgar…
Coinbase overall “Take Rate” (Revenue/Trade Volume) on their trading volume is 0.5%
That counts both Coinbase Pro and Coinbase App.
Volume is said to be split 1:2 App vs Pro
But a majority of that revenue is driven by retail investors on Coinbase App per CEOs recent call
Why is it bad that Coinbase makes most of their revenue from retail?
Well because their app fees are insanely high and not long term competitive.
On the app they charge between 1.5% and 10% on all trades both buys and sells
Exchange fees are below 0.5% and likely avg 0.1%
Other similar retail apps charge much lower fees:
PayPal charges 2.3% or $0.5
Robinhood charges $0.01
Voyager is Free
Cash App varies based on availability (but they give you a really shit execution)
So what it’s been that way for 3+ years, why will that change?
What happens when you can buy Crypto through Fidelity, Schwab, and TD Ameritrade with no trading fees?
What happens when low cost ETFs get into Crypto?
What happens as Crypto goes mainstream?
That day is coming
Coinbase had a huge headstart because of great management, good infrastructure and investor halo effects from Silicon Valley making them the first big exchange to gain wide US acceptance, but that won’t last forever.
But as this thread points out all of the brokerages and banks are going to be forced to enter the crypto market, because there is simply too much profit at stake.
So you shouldn’t be buying Coinbase for their current economics because they are earning above normal short term profits that won’t last.
Basically this is the traditional porters 5 forces analysis where new entrants are coming to take your profit pool and you can’t stop them
Coinbase is an innovator. They do have great custodian and infrastructure and a big opportunity to extend into other services.
That is what you should be buying them for, not for their high margin retail app business which is nearing the end of its useful life.
The smart move is wait for the Crypto cycle to collapse (which even Coinbase admits will likely happen in their S-1) and the price of $COIN stock with it and buy it then.
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The funny thing about short squeezes, is they only work for a very short period of time (usually about 2 weeks). Its like a ticking timebomb on all these names....
Gonna be a fun ride down.
Here is a list of shorts that have 50-75% downside once all this De-Grossing / WSB Pumping passes:
$NKLA - Still a Piece of Crap
$PEN - Still pending issues with Devices
$GSX - Was a big Melvin Cap Short, still a Fraud
$AAPN - Low Growth, Low Moat
$BYND - Tough Q4 Coming
More:
$AI - IPO, first quarter likely to disappoint
$BIGC - Growth vs Valuation still out of line
$REV - Still broken model with a looting Chairman
$NOK - Obviously
$GME - Obviously
$SEAC: 2020 saw the stock drop 67% on bad Framework deal closure numbers and limited revenue growth. With the release of their Video App and Ad Insertion Model in Q3/Q4 of this year, the dynamics will shift back to growth as they execute on the product diversification strategy
$IAC: Interactive Corp is a #NeverSell in my mind. It is continually undervalued by the market while continuing to show they can execute on their Internet Incubator model over and over. Vimeo is an incredibly unique asset and its upcoming spinoff should be value generating
Finance / Investing Insights that I have Learned in the last 7 years on Fintwit:
1) In investing there is always a soup of the day. You should always ask what it is but never order it.
2) Over a lifetime if you want to grow your wealth you either need growth, leverage, and/or dealmaking skills. Very hard to build wealth without any of these three.
$CVNA could easily be using their relationship with DriveTime to offload their Financing products at Premium prices and their Financing Margins improved bc they started securitizing their own loans in 2019 and have since plateaued
1) Before we get into this, you need to understand:
*CVNA CEO's dad is Ernest Garcia II, he owns and runs DriveTime & owns 38% of CVNA
*CVNA was originally a subsidiary of DriveTime prior to a spin-out and IPO
*CVNA is located next door to DriveTime
*DriveTime is Private
2) What financing do they actually sell? Its all the bullshit insurancy stuff car dealers try to sell you when you are buying a car.
VSCs = Vehicle Servicing Contracts = Extended Warranties
GAP Waiver Coverage = Coverage in case the car is totaled
Loan Receivables
Turning Point Brands is an extremely well run Other Tobacco Products (OTP) Company that focuses on non-cigerette tobacco products. They focus on high margin OTP products.
Several attractive dynamics will drive significant gains over the next decade.
Long Thesis Highlights:
•PMTA regulation will force small OTP players out of business or to sell to larger players like TPB
•Zig Zag has a huge growth runway
•Vape volumes not materially impacted by Vapegate
•Huge opp in CBD and Cannabis
•Strong Mangement / Cap Allocation
1) PMTA regulation starts in Sept 2020. TPB has been preparing and investing to support all their products in PMTA. They have also been doing PMTA support for others.
PMTA will materially change the OTP segment. It creates a regulatory barrier to entry, that benefits TPB