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12 Apr, 15 tweets, 7 min read
I am interested (as an anaesthetist/intensivist) in the claims that N95/FFP masks could
-raise CO2
-decreased oxygen uptake in pregnant patients

It is not a trivial claim
aricjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.11…
& is stated here by a WHO IPC expert group

..among a long list of downsides

1/15
The paper quoted regarding CO2 elevation is this one
ajicjournal.org/article/S0196-…

It studied
10 nurses
All white
9 female
9 elevated BMI, 5 BMI >30 kg/m2

2x 12 hour shifts
N95 +/- surgical mask over it
Unclear whether expiratory valve

Assessed
compliance comfort & physiology

2/15
The compliance and comfort evaluations showed
-lots of minor discomfort
-but rather well tolerated
-most removals at shift end or to drink
-compliance on day 2 better than day 1

3/15
Of note, many of the staff had elevated BMIs
Poor compliance and discomfort was much more common in those with the higher BMI
The authors note of the US population
- 1 in 3 overweight
- 1 in 3 obese

4/15
As for N95 and CO2
-this was measured through the skin
-rose from 32 mmHg (4.3kPa) to 41 (5.5) at end of shift
-rise was more marked if a face mask was worn over the N95
-there were no physiological disturbances associated with the rise

5/15
So does the CO2 rise with N95 mask matter?

-the authors clearly think it does not
(which makes it slightly odd for the review above to quote it)

But it does show that filtering masks are harder to breath through

6/15
Does a 6 mmHg (0.8kPa) CO2 rise have adverse physiological effects?

Much higher rises in a person with poor health might have plausibly have clinical impact
But generally a mildly elevated CO2 is not of itself harmful - more likely its the process causing it
So no!

7/15
So, on to the next quoted paper.
aricjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.11…

Suggesting use of N95 mask use is risky for the pregnant woman

The limitations of this paper are well covered from a 'physics' perspective in this thread


8/15
My thoughts..
19 mid-pregnancy subjects did the main study
Av 30 weeks gestation, BMI 26.6 kg/m2

Exercised to simulate active nursing activity
Then did this level of exercise for 15 minutes on treadmill
With and without "N95 mask apparatus"

9/15
Important limitation is that the study was not of N95 use
Used a tight mask used with N95 material over port
This makes study protocol easier but real concerns whether this experimental set up is valid... (creates excessive respiratory resistance)

10/15
Results
The N95 apparatus
-reduced breathing depth but not rate
-reduced min volume on exercise
-reduced expired O2
-raised expired CO2
-reduced VO2 and VCO2 during exercise
did not change mothers SpO2, HR, lactate or baby HR or variability

11/15
For me the KEY result in all this is that maternal oxygen (saturation) is maintained.
Therefore no alteration to oxygen delivered via placenta to fetus

The maternal CO2 is raised (as expected) but again the clinical impact of this is likely to be negligible or zero

12/15
I differ in my interpretation of the results from the authors

13/15
other authors are also reassured by the literature
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

14/15
Overall I'm reassured
-N95/FFP3 masks increase breathing resistance compared to no mask or surgical mask
-physiological response is to breathe harder (maintain CO2) or let CO2 rise a bit
-this CO2 rise is not harmful
-there is no impact on oxygenation
-including if pregant

15/15

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A longish thread on RESTARTING ELECTIVE SURGERY for a Saturday morning

First up it is very clear we need to do it

Some patients have life threatening or painful conditions that need addressing.

Provision of healthcare is a must for any civilised society

1/n
The volume of missed surgery is huge

We've probably lost at least 2 million cases in 2020 and we now have a waiting list of about 5 million

Different sources have broadly similar numbers between 2 and 3 million additional cases on the waiting list

2/n
The @RCoANews ACCC Track survey has examined the impact of the pandemic on surgical services
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nationalauditprojects.org.uk/ACCC-track-Ana…

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Space/staff issues most prominent

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With @drjulesbrown me and others

Here's a bit of the evidence behind it
1/19

theguardian.com/us-news/2021/m…
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Evidence base...
"We identified 5 case-control and 5 retrospective cohort studies which evaluated transmission of SARS to HCWs"
2/19

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
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Infectivity from SARS-CoV-2 starts and finishes earlier
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A thread on why a slower lockdown release makes sense for the wide and younger community (& so for all)

ICU pressures will not fall for up to 8 weeks after similar falls in deaths
@john_actuary
1/n

…-publications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.11…
The reasons can be illustrated by the median ages of patients in the 3 groups affected by COVID
-patients who died (median age 83) @ONS
-hospital admissions (age 73) @ISARIC1
-ICU admissions (age 61) @ICNARC

Impact of vaccination is much slower in the younger groups

2/n
There's been evidence vaccination is impacting deaths in the older groups for some time

John adds to the tweet below



3/n
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Nice to see this published
Working with @john_actuary from @COVID19actuary we’ve modelled impact of vaccination on
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-hospital admissions
-ICU admissions

…-publications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.11…
Vaccinating just by age would have this impact on the three measures

The lag in the last two is because the groups differ.

Median ages
-deaths 83
-hospitalised 73
-ICU 61

So the cohort who might get to ICU have to wait for vaccination
If the graphs are adjusted to account for
-gp2 health/social care workers
-gp4 extremely clin vulnerable
-gp6 high risk
They look like this with lag slightly reduced (and the health service staff protected)

Vaccinating 15% of popln
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-modest impact on ICU
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Round 3 of ACCC TRACK. Exploring impact of COVID on anaesthetic departments and surgical activity out now
@emirakur @jas_soar @HSRCNews @RCoANews

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Only about a third of anaesthetic departments operating well in December- worse then October and before the new year surge hit Image
All but 14% of hospitals in a surge setting and half not able to meet ICU demand as normal Image
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@chrischirp

-first more difficult to provide care
-then standards of care reduce
-finally inability to provide even that care to some needing it

theguardian.com/commentisfree/…
Important to remember that pressure on NHS will last longer than high rates of mortality

As @chrischirp says if we reach the point where we cannot deliver care to some patients there need to be a plan

The @ICS has perhaps produced the best 'organisational overview'
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